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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 194685

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  • Douglas Borchard - 2 years ago
    View points on Daniels 70th Week?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Douglas Borchard,

    This prophecy gives the precise time of the first coming of the Messiah. You will receive different understandings of this, it is a study that will take much time. this is just a little information you may use to help your study.

    Many put the last week of this prophecy at the end times. It is used for the 7 years of tribulation, a peace treaty with the antichrist (he in verse 27) for 3 1/2 years then 3 years of great tribulation with the taking of the church somewhere between (pre, mid, post).

    "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, (70 weeks, 70 x 7 = 490 solar years or 483 prophetic years) on the house of Israel (Daniel's people) and the holy city (Jerusalem). It started from "the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem", make a note, that the rebuilding of the temple is not in this prophecy.

    Here are a few verses that may help your study and if this prophecy has been fulfilled or not.

    1. To finish the transgression Isaiah 53:5, 8 Isaiah 53:11 Hebrews 9:15-18

    2. To make an end of sins Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3

    1 John 3:5 Psalm 32 Romans 8:3

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 ( Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness Romans 5:17-21 Romans 3:21-26 1Peter 2:24

    2 Corinthians 5:21 Isaiah 61:10-11

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18

    John 5:36-40 Matthew 11:11-15

    6. To anoint the most holy Hebrews 8:1-12 Hebrews 9:6-14

    The six things that were determined on Daniel's people and the holy city in this 70-week prophecy; did the Messiah/Jesus fulfill?

    God bless,

    RLW
  • DBorchard - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I have been studying on my own since January 2014, the book of Revelation and Daniel.

    And I have come to the conclusion that the book of Daniel is an old testament version of the book of Revelation, is this true?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey Doug,

    Prophecy reveals the consequences of obedience and disobedience. Prophecy reveals God's will, He wants all to receive His gift of salvation. Prophecy warns the lost to repent and it establishes the Bible's credibility. When looking at and studying prophecy, God's word (scripture) the Holy Spirit is the interpreter we are not. Prophecy is generally understood after it has been fulfilled, it confirms the word of God, and the prophet is of God.

    The book of Daniel is like the book of Revelation both are full of symbolism. Much of the book of Daniel has been fulfilled so I don't believe I would call it an OT version of Revelation.

    What I have found, with a cleared mind of preconceived ideas and having ears to hear the Holy Spirit we can understand the truth of prophecy, but there are things we will not know because it has not been revealed. But if we are still here when it begins, we will know, and in the faith of our Lord Jesus, we will be given the strength to withstand what is coming.

    This is probably not the answer you were looking for. I do not know how you take Revelation as a tip it is not written in chronological order. It is like the visions John was shown went back and forth in time. Others may disagree but that is the understanding I have received.

    May the Holy Spirit be your guide. If you get to a point, I have been there, you feel like a dog chasing its tail, just read, like the gospels or Paul you will be surprised the answer you were looking for will pop up like the letters were ten times larger and not even where you think the answer would be.

    God bless,

    RLW



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