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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 195388

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  • Dylan on Psalms 123 - 2 years ago
    When I read this psalm in the KJV and NKJV, Wycliffe's Bible and RV1885 versions. I can't help but to interpret it in a totally opposite way to all the classic commentaries and indeed the more modern translations and their commentators.

    The key difference in my mind arises from use of the archaic versions' words "filled with contempt" as opposed to the more contemporary versions' "endured no end of contempt".

    I understand this psalm (ie the KJV version) to be similar to Ps:51 a cry for mercy by a sinner.

    In that, the psalmist feels conviction of their collective contemptuous attitude which is both like the contempt of those who live at ease (the rich?) and also the contempt that the proud have for others.

    I looked at the Hebrew and it's frustratingly unclear because of the Yoda style grammar.

    I think the use of the word "mercy" is also really shaping my opinion because words like "salvation", "deliverance", "rescue", "save", "protection", "justice", "defence" are most generally used when the Psalmist is feeling oppressed and is seeking relief. "Mercy" feels more in line with repentance or confession.

    Love to hear others' thoughts.
  • Streetpreacher - In Reply on Psalms 123 - 2 years ago
    Psalm 51 was written by King David after Nathan the prophet confronted him about having Bathsheba's husband put on the front lines in war. He was killed.

    David married Bathsheba. Nathan also told him that his and Bathsheba's first born child would die. The baby died. David repented in ashes; got up and washed, ate a meal and comforted Bathsheba. His servants thought that he was terrible: Acting like the whole thing was normal.

    David had poured out his heart hoping God would change His mind. ( l am the Lord and I change Not)

    David tried. He knew it was his sin, totally.

    He had children problems the rest of his life. He died before Solomons reign started. He didn't know his son would have hundreds of wives and concubines. Make treaties with nations God forbid, worship their idols.

    Psalm 51 is authentic repentance for sins.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Psalms 123 - 2 years ago
    The site now has an Exhaustive Concordance, along with other translation comparison. Also the 1611 KJV. Several times I've looked at a deeper meaning or clearer understanding & the 1611 KJV was really helpful.

    To use the Concordance, you can tap verse. New page opens. Bottom of page the words can be individually researched from the original text used for these translated versions on this site.

    Interestingly & worth noting : occasionally I have found the surrounding words sometimes are a better key to my understanding than the single word, that I found perplexing.

    Also prayer for wisdom: James 1:5,

    Hopefully this is helpful



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