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  • Alex N - 2 years ago
    I just wanted to mention Matthew 21 : 16...Outta of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has pefected Praise...These Children are the result of the seed of the sower...The living words of God the contents of the book ...As Jesus said the good seed are the Children of the kingdom that are gonna be born in us who hear his words and keeps them...Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my Name receiveth me...impling the Kingdom....These babes and sucklings scriptures originate from David Psalms 8 :2 kjv...outa of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected Praise....That you might still the enemy ( satan our old carnal minds are in rank with the Devil our enemy...But these children are Baby Christ as that which is born of the spriit is spirit...as God is Spirit.

    ...But God had these babes and sucklings in mind when he made that Great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the Stars of heaven in Multitude...That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven thus the Children of the Kingdom which are spirits as the Babes and Sucklings are spirits...Which is the H.G. the Children of Promise that heavenly Gift...An Israel of God..Thats y Jesus wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts that we might birth one of these heavenly Children in our hearts which is the H.G..Thats y he is saying whosoever receiveth one such Child IN MY NAME RECEIVETH ME...And unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.

    ...We have a demonic enemy which is our carnal minds the flesh thus we must BIRTH a new heart and a new spirit...Which is the H.G. that Child of Promise A BABE and Suckling...That New Born babe desiring the sincere milk of the WORD is the H.G. that CHILD OF PROMISE...Thats y the woman in rev. 12 is giving birth to the babe and sucklings the H.G. the spirit of truth that is gona rule all nations..Humanity is the woman,...The world is gona have a Baby Christ,..Kings shall be your NURSING fathers.GB
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello again Alex,

    I believe we have an external enemy, which is Satan and other evil forces, and internal enemy, our sinful nature that was not part of how God originally created man. This sinful nature is not the same as our mortal flesh, which includes all of our body and its systems, cells, faculties. God intended for us to have mortal flesh and said that it was created good. So, I am not sure if you are equating our mortal flesh with our sinful nature or not. Those who do equate the two are saying that our mortal body is evil in contrast to our spiritual nature is good. This concept is the heresy of dualism. The reality is that both our mortal body, our soul, and spiritual nature are affected by our sinful nature but none of these three aspects of our humanness are evil in and of themselves. Our salvation in Christ brings redemption to our whole selves, body, soul, and spirit. In this life we have the assurance of this salvation and the Spirit as a guarantee (downpayment) but our full redemption will come when our damaged and corrupted bodies are resurrected and changed to become immortal and incorruptible. This happens because part of this redemptive change removes the sinful nature completely from us at that time and we will forever be sin-free and unable to ever sin again. That will be one of the things that will be so wonderful about the eternal life we will inherit from Jesus. All the saints will never again sin against God, ourselves, and others. Our relationships will be perfectly holy forever. How great our God is to do this for us and not leave us forever captive to sin.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear brother Alex N, when you talk about being born again, it sounds like something people have to do themselves. Now you could elaborate a little on what they can not do, think u not? We know that everything comes from the Lord, no one gets there without God the Father Himself. Ephesians 2:18 and mm.

    But what we can contribute is and tell the people we meet that they should believe for their own part. so that they do not fare badly on the last day of God. Because faith comes from preaching, or what they hear right? So that they may repent and believe from dead works and believe in the Living God Jesus Christ. Romans 1:16-17

    Romans 6:10-11

    Thank you that you will never forget what He has done for you. Know that you are highly loved by our gracious God and in what you have been handed down. (if the grammar is wrong forgive me). What gift u have get from Him is precious, always stand strong in the Living Word of God.

    God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Free GBU....Free i think in the end that God is gonna pour out his spirit on ALL Flesh as some of the prophets tells us about...Like Joel 2 : 28...and Acts 2 : 16...As Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains.... Jeremiah 30 : 6 kjv...And thats y i think that everybody is gonna be bornagain in that last day....And Isaiah 11...speaks of a lil Child that is gonna lead all men to that holy mountain...which is the Kingdom of God...Free you are so right everything has to come from God...But Free that book in the righthand of the father has to be opened 1st...Which is the new covenant...Which states i will know them all from the least to the greatest...And their sins and iniquites will i remember no more....Free i think what Jesus did at calvary made us all clean...When he said its finished i think it was complete...I think what God told PETER, In ACTS 10 : 19...what I have made clean do not call common or unclean is exactly the way it is....I don't think we need water baptism anymore...Lest his blood was insufficient.

    ......I'm kinda like Paul i think that water baptism wd just make his blood of no effect... 1st Cor. 1 : 17 kjv....When ya tell folks that need water baptism for the remission of sins...You are in essence saying his blood was insufficient...Or some sins are too strong for his blood ya need a back up like water baptism for some folks that are really sinful...All the water in the world cd not make mankind sin free or incorruptible ...Its only by the blood of the lamb...I love what John the baptise said.. behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...ok lemme go
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear friends in Christ, i understand u werry well Alex, i belive what u Says Also. Ppl gets off the shaft when i say this. Evan throw me out of Community. Here you can clearly see that judgment starts with God's people. God bless us all.

    Halleljua Jesus is today and yesterday the same. And, of course, it says that the spirit shall be shed in the last days. For everyone to come home with Jesus. I guess He doesn't want to bring home someone who's not ready. Also to confirm that He Is the King.

    He Jesus once died for all ppl, not only me typ!



    In fact, I've never thought about this with the baptism of water. And your words are not wrong here. What may be is that, as with me, not everyone sees this yet. (Smily).

    We will understand everything in the end. And i will study this baptism thoughts and look to it with open mind. Ty but am sure that water and spirit baptism is to different things and water can not give a salvation at all. But my words i like to say is: It's a good conscience with God Him self a promice too Him in one way. What says i Free will always stand with God, Jesus Christ and our Holy Spirit of God, who understand everything about me, u and all ppl.

    Long to see you all, if not now in this world so in the coming. Love u all in Christ, God bless

    Acts 9
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Alex,

    Yes, I agree that Christ's suffering, death on the cross, His burial and resurrection on the third day bought and avails salvation to all who believe this Gospel. Salvation is of God from start to finish, from before the foundation of the world unto the end of this age into eternity. We receive this salvation wrought for us by the Godhead by turning to God and believing, utilizing the faith that was created in us when the Holy Spirit regenerated us at God's appointed time. We claim it for ourselves. We depend on the righteousness of Jesus to justify us. We acknowledge that the blood Jesus shed on the cross washes away our sins.

    I do not think I remember reading Paul ever say that water baptism is not to be practiced by the church. I do not recall reading where the Baptism of the Holy Spirit replaces water baptism. This is because these things are not taught in the new Testament.

    In the New Testament church it was the norm for new believers to be water baptized. Historical documents attest to this as well.

    It is only in the past century or so that any sect of the church has taught that Baptism of the Holy Spirit replaces water baptism. I choose to believe the words of Jesus, the writings of the apostles, and the testimony of the early Church history and not the very recent teaching that water baptism is obsolete and Baptism of the Holy Spirit replaces it.



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