But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: ( Titus 2:1)
The Bible tells us we lived with God before we were born.
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? ( Job 38:4,7)
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. ( Jeremiah 1:5)
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 2 (Timothy 1:9)
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: ( Ephesians 1:4)
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: ( 1 Corinthians 2:7)
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; (Titus1:2)
(A Prayer of Moses the man of God.) Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. (Psalms: 90:1-2)
God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. ( Romans 11:2)
She was with our Lord before and during the creation of the world.
Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; ( Proverbs 8:30)
Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
I do not concur with you that we had actual existence before we were conceived in our mothers. I think the Scriptures you quoted tells us that we were in God's "view" before He created anything. He had each of us in mind to come into existence before creation. Jesus was is said to have been slain before the foundations of the world, but He only was born of a virgin, lived a perfect life, suffered, was crucified, died, was buried, and resurrected from the dead once in all of history. These verses are speaking of God's omniscience-He knew everything that will every be thought, said or done by anything and anyone He created before He created anything. he lives in the eternal now, without time constraints, and He also is so great that He does not find out what is done by His creation as it unfolds in time, but knows everything simultaneously. This is hard for us creatures to really comprehend. But this is what these Scriptures are really telling us. They are not telling us that we had life and existence with God prior to our physical conception.
Many ideas exist about our Lord the Bible does not support.
That is how I know I am following what is true, if the Bible supports the belief I will believe.
By this, I know better than to follow the David Koreshes or any other false doctrines.
I hear about people following men's teachings the Bible does not support and many lives end in tragedy.
Therefore, what Peter taught is true, if we rest the Scriptures it is to our own destruction. ( 2 Peter 3:16)
I only go by the Bible and any doctrine that the Bible supports.
The Bible teaches we lived with God before the world was formed and you believe we lived in His thoughts I understand.
But there are more Biblical passages saying we lived with Him, literally, before the world was and I believe we lived with Him as spirits.
Listen to the prophet Micaiah speaking to the king of Israel and the king of Judah,
Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.
And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.
Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so. ( 2 Chronicles 18-21)
The Bible tells us we lived with God before we were born.
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? ( Job 38:4,7)
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. ( Jeremiah 1:5)
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 2 (Timothy 1:9)
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: ( Ephesians 1:4)
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: ( 1 Corinthians 2:7)
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; (Titus1:2)
(A Prayer of Moses the man of God.) Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. (Psalms: 90:1-2)
God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. ( Romans 11:2)
She was with our Lord before and during the creation of the world.
Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; ( Proverbs 8:30)
Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
( Proverbs 8:4, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27)
I do not concur with you that we had actual existence before we were conceived in our mothers. I think the Scriptures you quoted tells us that we were in God's "view" before He created anything. He had each of us in mind to come into existence before creation. Jesus was is said to have been slain before the foundations of the world, but He only was born of a virgin, lived a perfect life, suffered, was crucified, died, was buried, and resurrected from the dead once in all of history. These verses are speaking of God's omniscience-He knew everything that will every be thought, said or done by anything and anyone He created before He created anything. he lives in the eternal now, without time constraints, and He also is so great that He does not find out what is done by His creation as it unfolds in time, but knows everything simultaneously. This is hard for us creatures to really comprehend. But this is what these Scriptures are really telling us. They are not telling us that we had life and existence with God prior to our physical conception.
Thank you for your insight.
I am a truth seeker.
Many ideas exist about our Lord the Bible does not support.
That is how I know I am following what is true, if the Bible supports the belief I will believe.
By this, I know better than to follow the David Koreshes or any other false doctrines.
I hear about people following men's teachings the Bible does not support and many lives end in tragedy.
Therefore, what Peter taught is true, if we rest the Scriptures it is to our own destruction. ( 2 Peter 3:16)
I only go by the Bible and any doctrine that the Bible supports.
The Bible teaches we lived with God before the world was formed and you believe we lived in His thoughts I understand.
But there are more Biblical passages saying we lived with Him, literally, before the world was and I believe we lived with Him as spirits.
Listen to the prophet Micaiah speaking to the king of Israel and the king of Judah,
Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.
And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.
Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so. ( 2 Chronicles 18-21)
He made us in His mind at the foundation of the earth. Psalms 139:13-17
He has created all life forms as well. Genesis 1:28-31 see v.30
All powers are subject to Him, even there He is Lord! Ephesians 6:1
God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ.
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