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Martha let me give ya my take on Spirits...The Father and the son are one but 2 distinct beings....Like in the natural the father is greater then his son....But in time the Son becomes equal to his father...And the Father loves it so....He thought it not robbery to be equal to his Father..But he does say that my Father is greater then I...Only the Son died, not his father so they are 2 disctinct beings but both God....When David said the Lord said unto my Lord sit thou at my right hand till i make your enemies your footstool....That 1 lil Scripture proves 2 distinct beings...Both God...This Father and Son relationship begs the Question of a Granson (a heavenly Jacob) and equally important an Israel of God that is gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitiude....Just as Natural Israel was multiplied as the Sands of the Seas...The Israel of GOD is gona be multiplied as the stars of heaven ...Which are spirits ...But these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes...The H.G. the Granson...That which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. The Granson....That Heavenly Jacob as in Isaiah 49
.....Without this Abrahamic Trinity....Father, Son and Granson scenario....There cd not have been the 12 tribes....That resulted in the nation of Israel...Like wise in the spiritual realm there has to be an Israel of God....There has to be a perfect Israel....Be ye PERFECT as your father in heaven is PERFECT....Thats y Jesus will go forth to sow his PERFECT seed in humanity....Which are Spirits, The contents of that BOOK..in the fathers right hand...That New Covenant...Which will result in the BABES and SUCKLINGS...The Gransons ...Which are Spirits the H.G...Many as the stars of Heaven...Which answers to our New hearts and new Spirits...an Israel of God...That cannot sin simply b/c they are born of God via that good seed of Christ Jesus....That was the Great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of Heaven..We be the woman in birth pains.
Man, born of woman, (FLESH), is like a Beast of the Earth, NO KNOWLEDGE.
The Holy Ghost came to GIVE MAN KNOWLEDGE.
So we can be BORN OF SPIRIT.
God IS SPIRIT, no beginning and no end.
God created a IMMORTAL BODY, and put inside that IMMORTAL BODY, HIS SPIRIT (Himself), and called that BODY, Jesus Christ, the first man, the TRUE ADAM, with no beginning and no end.
Here is a PROPHECY in Genesis:
Genesis 5:2 Male and Female created he them, and blessed them, and CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM. in the DAY they were created.
That day (of that creation), is called the DAY OF THE LORD, the day you come out of darkness into light. You come to the KNOWLEDGE that by the RESURRECTION of Christ's NEW BODY (YOU and I) and the NEW LIFE by the SPIRIT of THE FATHER: we become ADAM, Christ was the first ADAM, before the flesh and blood Adam, we are the last, ADAM, created in Christ Jesus
Revelation 1:8 ... Revelation 22:13 I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY .......
There is only ONE BODY that can exist in the next age, and THAT BODY is the BODY OF CHRIST.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only (Christ only) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT ......
1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth IT (the new creation in Christ) a BODY as it hath pleased him, and to ever SEED HIS (God's on body), God's BODY IS JESUS CHRIST.
WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, The Father (SPIRIT) being THE LIFE, of the BODY.
This NEW BIRTH happens when your body of FLESH and BLOOD DIES.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN (Alpha) among many brethren (Omega).
Hello Martha GBU.... But let me give ya slant on Spirits....They are individual....As the Trinity is Father Son and Granson...They are all 3 related...As Father Son and Granson...But 3 distinct beings...As the bible speaks of God being the Father of Spirts...As his good seed is his Word...Jesus himself was the word ( Gods Seed made flesh and blood )... Just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas...Father God swore by himself that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....Thus an Israel of God which are individual Spirits...b/c of his seed...not the written word but the living Word...Thats y the sower of that good Seed a spiritual seed will multiply very God....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the Word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods plural thus we see that Spirits can be born in humanity.
...When Jesus breath on them he was propagating very God ( spirits ) with his breath which was his Word...And the H.G. was born in them some days later...Thats y he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit...They don't call Jesus the bridegroom for nothin, He has a seed to sow in humanity...And the Child is the H.G. THAT WAS THE GREAT PROMISE THAT CHRIST WD BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN IN MULTITUDE...And when God swore by his self implied this multiplication wd be the Regeneration of VERY GOD...And Hebrews 9 : 12 Refers to God as the FATHER OF SPIRITS.which are th New Born babes desiring the sincere milk of the word,..Thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed ( the word ) in humanity...That we might birth a Baby Christ the H.G. that Child of PROMISE...Natural Israel were humans...But the Israel of God are Spirits that are gonna be born in us sinners...Our New HEART and New Spirits are the result of his seed the words of that New Covenant living words...meaning living spirits all distinct living beings..Each Spirit an indiviual living being ..The Babes and Sucklings he mentions are SPIRITS that are gonna BE BORN IN US SINNERS.
No Martha, the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are one & self-same Spirit. We understand this because of the Deity of the Spirit (i.e. the Holy Spirit is a vital Person within the Godhead, or Trinity), & by the procession of the Spirit (i.e. the Spirit proceeding from both the Father & the Son, without any change or division in God's Nature).
a. the Spirit's Deity.
Proven by His Names (Equality: 1 Corinthians 6:11; Doing the Work of God: Romans 8:15; John 14:16).
Proven by His Characteristics (All-knowing: 1 Corinthians 2:10,11; Everywhere: Psalm 139:7; All-powerful: Genesis 1:2; Truth: 1 John 5:6; Holiness: Luke 11:13; Life: Romans 8:2; Wisdom: Isaiah 40:13).
Proven by His Works (In creation: Genesis 1:2; Inspiration: 2 Peter 1:21; Begetting Christ: Luke 1:35; Convincing men: John 16:8; Regenerating: John 3:5,6; Comforting: John 14:16; Interceding: Romans 8:26,27; Sanctifying: 2 Thessalonians 2:13).
Proven by His equality with the Father & Son ( Acts 5:3,4; Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14).
b. the Spirit's Procession.
Proceeded from the Father ( John 15:26).
Proceeded from the Son ( Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9; John 16:7).
So, I hope you can see that the Holy Spirit, whether spoken of God or of Jesus, is the same Spirit, for He is one with the Father & the Son. Then when we come to 1 Corinthians 12:13, "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit", again the one & same Holy Spirit is seen here, but we now see His special work where His coming into our lives, affects our spirits and baptizes us (brings us into union) with the whole family of God (into one Body, i.e. of Christ).
.....Without this Abrahamic Trinity....Father, Son and Granson scenario....There cd not have been the 12 tribes....That resulted in the nation of Israel...Like wise in the spiritual realm there has to be an Israel of God....There has to be a perfect Israel....Be ye PERFECT as your father in heaven is PERFECT....Thats y Jesus will go forth to sow his PERFECT seed in humanity....Which are Spirits, The contents of that BOOK..in the fathers right hand...That New Covenant...Which will result in the BABES and SUCKLINGS...The Gransons ...Which are Spirits the H.G...Many as the stars of Heaven...Which answers to our New hearts and new Spirits...an Israel of God...That cannot sin simply b/c they are born of God via that good seed of Christ Jesus....That was the Great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of Heaven..We be the woman in birth pains.
John 4:24 God is Spirit .....
Ephesians 4:4 ONE SPIRIT ...ONE BODY ...
Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL .....
Man, born of woman, (FLESH), is like a Beast of the Earth, NO KNOWLEDGE.
The Holy Ghost came to GIVE MAN KNOWLEDGE.
So we can be BORN OF SPIRIT.
God IS SPIRIT, no beginning and no end.
God created a IMMORTAL BODY, and put inside that IMMORTAL BODY, HIS SPIRIT (Himself), and called that BODY, Jesus Christ, the first man, the TRUE ADAM, with no beginning and no end.
Here is a PROPHECY in Genesis:
Genesis 5:2 Male and Female created he them, and blessed them, and CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM. in the DAY they were created.
That day (of that creation), is called the DAY OF THE LORD, the day you come out of darkness into light. You come to the KNOWLEDGE that by the RESURRECTION of Christ's NEW BODY (YOU and I) and the NEW LIFE by the SPIRIT of THE FATHER: we become ADAM, Christ was the first ADAM, before the flesh and blood Adam, we are the last, ADAM, created in Christ Jesus
Revelation 1:8 ... Revelation 22:13 I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY .......
There is only ONE BODY that can exist in the next age, and THAT BODY is the BODY OF CHRIST.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only (Christ only) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT ......
1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth IT (the new creation in Christ) a BODY as it hath pleased him, and to ever SEED HIS (God's on body), God's BODY IS JESUS CHRIST.
WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, The Father (SPIRIT) being THE LIFE, of the BODY.
This NEW BIRTH happens when your body of FLESH and BLOOD DIES.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN (Alpha) among many brethren (Omega).
God Bless You.
...When Jesus breath on them he was propagating very God ( spirits ) with his breath which was his Word...And the H.G. was born in them some days later...Thats y he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit...They don't call Jesus the bridegroom for nothin, He has a seed to sow in humanity...And the Child is the H.G. THAT WAS THE GREAT PROMISE THAT CHRIST WD BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN IN MULTITUDE...And when God swore by his self implied this multiplication wd be the Regeneration of VERY GOD...And Hebrews 9 : 12 Refers to God as the FATHER OF SPIRITS.which are th New Born babes desiring the sincere milk of the word,..Thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed ( the word ) in humanity...That we might birth a Baby Christ the H.G. that Child of PROMISE...Natural Israel were humans...But the Israel of God are Spirits that are gonna be born in us sinners...Our New HEART and New Spirits are the result of his seed the words of that New Covenant living words...meaning living spirits all distinct living beings..Each Spirit an indiviual living being ..The Babes and Sucklings he mentions are SPIRITS that are gonna BE BORN IN US SINNERS.
a. the Spirit's Deity.
Proven by His Names (Equality: 1 Corinthians 6:11; Doing the Work of God: Romans 8:15; John 14:16).
Proven by His Characteristics (All-knowing: 1 Corinthians 2:10,11; Everywhere: Psalm 139:7; All-powerful: Genesis 1:2; Truth: 1 John 5:6; Holiness: Luke 11:13; Life: Romans 8:2; Wisdom: Isaiah 40:13).
Proven by His Works (In creation: Genesis 1:2; Inspiration: 2 Peter 1:21; Begetting Christ: Luke 1:35; Convincing men: John 16:8; Regenerating: John 3:5,6; Comforting: John 14:16; Interceding: Romans 8:26,27; Sanctifying: 2 Thessalonians 2:13).
Proven by His equality with the Father & Son ( Acts 5:3,4; Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14).
b. the Spirit's Procession.
Proceeded from the Father ( John 15:26).
Proceeded from the Son ( Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9; John 16:7).
So, I hope you can see that the Holy Spirit, whether spoken of God or of Jesus, is the same Spirit, for He is one with the Father & the Son. Then when we come to 1 Corinthians 12:13, "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit", again the one & same Holy Spirit is seen here, but we now see His special work where His coming into our lives, affects our spirits and baptizes us (brings us into union) with the whole family of God (into one Body, i.e. of Christ).
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