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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 196983

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • One Eighty - 2 years ago
    Thank you to all for their replies to my recent questions. Very thoughtful and helpful. Posting on line is very new to me and i respect all for their varied opinions. I tend to search out truth by searching out everything that seems to interfere with it, thus whatever is left is truth. I liken it to searching for gold; when I remove all the stuff in the gold pan ( a tedious process), what remains is hopefully what I want: the gold (truth). I mention this because it may appear as though I'm attempting to disprove something in the Scriptures. Not necessarily so though. Being exposed to the Bible and Christianity all my life, I desire for all of it to make sense.

    With that being said and out of the way, what does the Bible and believers mean when they refer to God, Jesus, and H.S. as being in us? If literally taken, it sounds like "in our bodies". I think most would reply, "In our heart", though I don't think it is meant our physical heart. Is it? Or is it our whole body? I'm asking myself (please excuse me), who or what would want to dwell there; it is somewhat disgusting and somewhat foul smelling in there. I'm almost sure there's a simple answer to this that I can accept as truth. Any help would be appreciated. Peace to all.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear One Eighty,

    This is a good inquiry. I think that the Scriptures are clear that God lives in us. Where exactly, is not clearly stated. We are an integrated being with a body, soul, and spirit. If God dwells in our spirit, He necessarily dwells in our soul and body. If He dwells in our soul, He necessarily dwells in our body and spirit. If He dwells in our body, He necessarily dwells in our spirit and soul. I don't think the bible teaches that we can be compartmentalized spiritually or physically. The spirit, soul, and body, make us a whole person. And our redemption is of our whole person, spirit, soul, and body. So, by faith we are saved spirit, soul, and body.

    I think it is an error to think of our physical body as being vile, but our soul (heart), or spirit being pure. This smacks of Gnosticism where the body is seen as evil and the spirit as good. It is also termed "dualism" and is not taught in the Scripture. We have become a new creation in Christ. When we were created at conception, we were created body, soul, spirit. When we are born again, we become a new human creature body, soul, and spirit. We just cannot divide ourselves up into separate parts. When we sin, our whole self sins, body, soul, and spirit. when we obey God, our whole self obeys, body, soul, and spirit.

    The difference between our self prior to salvation and after is that, after, we have been made alive to God when we were dead to Him before, and the Holy Spirit comes to reside in us, giving us faith to believe and power to live for God by resisting sin and loving what is good.
  • One Eighty - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi GiGi. Much appreciation for your thoughts. Actually I perceive the body as neutral, controlled by either positive (loving) thoughts, their Source being God, or negative (fearful/hateful) thoughts originating from satan.

    I'm curious what the definition of the term "dualism" in which you referred is?
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello again One Eighty

    I suggest that you look up dualism on the internet to get a good idea of what it means.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    John 17, Romans 8, 1John 4:13-21,

    Ephesians 3:17,

    Hopefully these are helpful



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