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  • JASON ZAHN on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello, today i have decided to read through the bible starting from the beginning to the end, which I have never done before.

    Naturally I have a few questions and I would like to think about them before moving on.

    1: In Genesis 1:26 God said "let us create man in our image". Who are the "us" and "our" in this sentence? Then in Genesis 1:27 "he created male and female" I thought this was Adam and Eve, however in Genesis 2:7 it goes on to say that "on the seventh day that God rested. However it goes on to say that he created man from the dust of the ground". Further, it states in Genesis 2:22 that he then created woman. Were these different sets of people?

    2: Genesis 4:5 Why did the Lord not have any respect for Cains' offering? The bible does not offer any explanation?

    3: Genesis 4:15 What kind of mark did the lord place upon Cain after he slew his brother Abel?

    4: Genesis 6 Who are the "sons of God" who took themselves daughters of men? And who were the giants mentioned in Genesis 6:4?

    Thank you to anyone who is able to answer some or all of these questions for me. I am in no hurry to rush through all of the chapters and would just like to gain a better understanding before I proceed. Thank you and God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Great decision, to read throughout the Bible!!

    Please start with : James 1:5,

    It's amazing over many years of reading, rereading & studying, GOD can teach us something new every time. Hopefully you'll continue to read it several times.

    Son's of GOD = Genesis 6:2, notice: Genesis 4:26, = John 1:12, Romans 8:14, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1, 2

    Job 1:6, Job 2:1, = notice the vrs. right before, Job 1:5, & right before, Job 2, Job 1:20-22, Revelation 12:10,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Jason Since only God knows whats in a mans heart in genesis he knew cains , and look at cains actions and responses

    he became extremely angry because of jealousy to the point of murder. Then look at his response when God ask wheres your

    brother am I my brothers keeper like who cares no heart. Cain was the first absolutely what the bible calls in other places

    a son of belial he became absolutely worthless for the true God and all his lineage over the ages same thing. Jude verse 11

    and in context discribes these men who always defy and endeavor to interrupt the ways of the true God. Most of the

    pharisees and other leaders at the time of christ were these men. In 1 KINGS 18:18-22 when elijah ordered the prophets

    of baal another name for satan worship these men were all wicked men same deal worshipping the devil. They exist in our

    day and time only they operate behind the scenes controlling world conditions backed up by satan. This is a brief overview

    in answer to gen4:5 and 15, in John 8:38-44 Jesus Christ confronted some of these men directly and called them sons of the

    devil spiritually.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hey Jason,

    It is a good thing to start at the beginning and go to the end. I could tell you my understanding that will be different than many that may respond but I will say this. Regardless of the understanding you receive after the flood everyone living are descendants of Adam and Eve and the line to Jesus, the last Adam that the scriptures are all about

    Clear your mind of the preconceived ideas you have and pray the Holy Spirit guide you to the truth. Your questions on Genesis 1:26-2:22 when you read through and take notes and go back and study each day, consider words like water, earth, and field and replenish. Look up the meaning of them and take notes of what was created on each day. I will give you one, replenish is an Old English word that meant fill not to refill.

    What the water brought forth, what the earth brought forth, and what was formed out of the ground. Like beast of the earth, beast of the field, fouls from the water, fouls formed out of the ground. In the sixth days man was created last, does that line up in the second chapter?

    The reason for God not having respect for Cains offering look in the New Testament. Scripture does not tell us if God gave instructions of what and how to offer so, it not being a blood offering is opinion. Abel brought the firstlings of his flock it does not say that about Cain. I will just say most comes from the heart as we see God told Cain if he doest well he would be accepted.

    The Mark of Cain, what it was is not in scripture and any opinion will be speculation but whatever it was people would see it. Do a word search on the sons of God the book of Job is a good start. There are many opinions of a gap, but I have not found any scripture to support that.

    I hope this will give you a start let the Holy Spirit be your teacher and don't look to find scripture to fit an opinion or a preconceived idea, let the scripture and the Holy Spirit show the truth, it may be later not now.

    God bless your study,

    RLW
  • JASON ZAHN - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Good morning to you and thank you for your thoughts on my questions. I definitely agree that we are all descendants of Adam (From his son Seth's line of descendants. You are correct in that some of the translations from the original language to English may be slightly off in some wording, like the example that you provided. We of course will not know for sure until we get to heaven and as I stated in another post the most important thing is to believe in God and that he sent his son to die for our sins.

    After rereading the first six chapters of Genesis I do agree with you that the reason God accepted Abel's sacrifice and not Cain's was because Cain's did not come fully from his heart. It wasn't the sacrifice that was important it was the motive behind it.

    I am doing my best not to use preconceived notions and as you stated to let the holy spirit be my guide. As for the "sons of God" and "daughters of men" I have some thoughts on that also but will continue my reading and note taking before I state an opinion.

    May God bless you also and I am going to continue on now.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hey Jason, good deal, it would be nice if our brain had a delete button, when things pop up in our mind, we could just click and put it in the trash bin. Our subconscious mind paints a picture in our mind, it does not analyze or judge it just records and it is millions of times faster than our conscious mind. It is the big part of our flesh; it is a big driver of our choices.

    In other words, we've already come up with a decision or an answer, before we realize we have. When we read and study, what we have programed in our mind by what we have been taught, answers we have come up with on our own will block what we are reading with what we have in our subconscious mind.

    There is a phrase in the bible I think speaks to it; "he who has ears to hear let him hear".

    When we read or study, if we can start as we do not know anything about what we are about to read and prayer.

    If you have questions, there are many on this site would love to help.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • JC - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    T h a n k y o u !
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Jason I apologise after why the repopilate is supposed to read because in genesis in the beginning there was a life

    but was wiped out between genesis 1:1 and 1:2 thats why repopulate is there no their were not two adams and eves.

    thge only6 traces of the life that was on earth are fossilsof the cataclysmic event.
  • JASON ZAHN - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    I suppose that could be true (about mankind being created on the 6th day, getting wiped out, and then Adam and Eve being created later...much later. We simply do not know because of course the bible does not tell us that, and in the end when we get to heaven then I am sure we will have answers to all these sorts of questions. The main thing is that we believe in God and that he sent his son to die for our sins. Amen.

    Thank you for your interesting thoughts.
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Jason one point in gen 2: 7 God formed man of the dust of /the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life

    and man became a living soul. now some will say spirit and soul are the same but look at 1 Thes.5:23 states and I pray your

    spirit soul and body be preserved blameless. Another point interesting is Gen. 1:28 that God says to adam and eve

    repopulate the earth why. IN GEN 1:27 God created man in his image.[In gospel of the john 4;24 GOD IS SPIRIT thats what he

    created in man then in gen 2:7 he finished it and man had body soul and spirit.
  • Jason - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hmm that is a very good point and I missed that part about "replenishing the earth"..replenishing giving the idea that there had to be something prior to Adam and Eve or there wouldn't be a replenishing if they were there originally. Thank you for your reply and wow it's so interesting to think about pre-adamite man this way ( Neanderthals cromagnon man etc).
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Jason,

    For each chapter in the Bible there are two sections at the bottom of the page: one is from a Commentary; the other is Discussion pages from those on this forum in regards to these chapters. You may wish to read both of these sections. This may help you in getting answers to your questions also.



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