It appalls me that anyone proclaiming to be a Christian would defend abortion in any scenario, way, shape or form. Those here "making exceptions" disgust me and are scourge to God and you know not the Lord & Savior Christ Jesus. It's murder.
"They were raped" That's terrible but the child is innocent. Why does the child have to die for the sin committed in this case. Even celebrity Jack Nicholson stated his disdain for abortion because his mother planned to abort him...and something stopped her from doing so. If a woman's raped she's a victim; if she commits abortion after...she's a murderer.
"Woman was impregnated though incest." Again, that's a terrible sin but the child is innocent. We're not going to weigh one sin vs. another but I can tell you this -- I feel murder weights much heavier than incest.
It's the blood of the innocent.
Proverbs Chapter 6:16-19
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Thank you for those who commented in this thread and haven't been blinded by pretexts to condoning murder of the innocent which is abortion.
Imagine if people petitioned for the mother of Jeremiah to commit abortion. What pretext would we have when you're before God and he shows you these words:
Jeremiah 1:5 - Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
He knows every from the first moment. The question is, do you want the blood on your hands? If you support abortion your hands are just as bloody as they who made it so. Don't be a fool.
I notice that a lot of men are attempting to answer this question . That's ok , I realise that a man , indeed not just men but any human , can not know the trauma of rape unless it has happened to them , it hasn't happened to me but I know women that it has happened to , one of them starved herself to death after she was raped , it took her two weeks . I am generally against abortion , certainly for Christians , however the world is not populated by Christians and it's not our place to judge those who are without the Truth , God does that . To all of you out there , as either a women who has been raped or as a parent of a child who has been raped , how would you feel if you or your child was forced to carry a rapists baby and bring it to birth . There can't be many things more horrifying than rape but then to have to carry that child ? Torture . I hope I never have to see anyone forced to endure that and to all women who have actually been able to do that of their own free will , my hat goes of to you with much respect . Christians have much more strength than non Christians , we know that God and Jesus are with us every step of the way and they will help us to do whatever we have to do in this life , with their help we can do anything , non Christians do not know that God will help them , they face this life without that wellspring of understanding and support . I'm not saying they are in the right because they are not , but they can only work with what they have in this life because they don't know anything other than this life and the things that pertain to it . It won't always be like this though , Christ is coming ! Big smiley face .
Read my below comment. It's murder. You tell a story of someone starving themselves to death after rape as a subtle way of justify abortion (which is murder). There are people who've accidentally killed someone driving and starved themselves out of the depression and guilt. My wife is obviously a woman and she's got a stronger word against this than my own. But it's not about us. We react on emotion and sympathy and that's not how justice is determined in the Word of God.
I'll quote this again but Proverbs 6:16 & 17
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, "
Our finite 'complaints' to justify abortion are bigger than God? God HATEs abortion. Who do you think the innocent were in Proverbs 6? They are an ABOMINATION unto him.
So, like a stated below a woman is raped, this makes her a victim. Again a terrible thing and now she's a victim. The moment she commits abortion she's no longer a victim but a murderer. That's harsh but that's the reality of what we're trying to justify here. Let that sink in. God is bigger than our emotions, our situations and does not and will not ever support murder.
Hi Daniel , I'm not sure if you think that I am Free or suze , I promise you faithfully that we are not the same person . As far as I know the young woman who starved herself to death was not pregnant . She was a 19 yr old student who came to England to study , she was a virgin and a devout Catholic , she was walking home from her friends at 9 pm , three men jumped her , dragged her into some nearby wasteland and repeatedly raped her in every way possible for a few hours . She regained consciousness and managed to get home , when she got home she spent hours in the bath scrubbing herself inside and out with a scourer and bleach . She then got into bed and phoned her friend and asked her to come and stay with her . She wouldn't have a doctor , here , if you go to hospital with those kind of injuries the medical staff are obliged to call the police . The thought of a physical examination and having to describe her ordeal was unbearable to her . Her friend who had to go to work during the day , stayed with her every night , she didn't tell her friend that she was eating nothing . By the time her friend realised what she had been doing to herself it was to late , her organs were damaged and shutting down . This is rape . Like I said at the begining , there's no evidence that she was pregnant . Sorry if I didn't make that clear .
Hello everyone, here we go again. smiley sign. God's kingdom is more complicated than not following God's Word. And in the text of the law it says that one should not kill, but in the present state and everything that belongs to the Lord. He will forgive all those who ask Him. So why does man put himself above other people. It's like Herske sick, everything bad is in it.
Also remember by all means what a predicament you put a human being in by recognizing that a fetus that has not yet been breathed into its soul can be a life. For a man who sees it, it is a sin! But if it is talk of a man's sperm not going to the ground. Then all illegitimacy, ugliness, abuse and control over us comes instead. This is not in the law. That is why you are now exposing women to abuse.
Because here we are talking about those cases in a married state.
I understand it to mean that all people, unmarried or married, have a life and an Underlife. The abdomen demands its share and lucky is the one who is frigid and lucky is the one who has a partner. Not everyone has that, and then we have those who are really sick.
Then it's a shame. For the man who does not see it, it cannot be sin.
When we talk about order, we must be careful so that we do not suddenly live in a double standard. Some words came to me and we may well ask ourselves how our dear Paul can say the exact opposite of what Jesus says, follow me in Luke 16:18 and Pauls word 1 Corintihans 7:10-11. which then creates great confusion about the question of adultery which can also then be defined within this question. Paul's words arrange everything to be the woman's fault.
Jesus doesn't do that! Humans have their own responsibilities and follow up, don't let yourself be dictated by a law that applies to taking life. No healthy person goes to kill, think about it dear friends. God bless you all, i love you in Christ. Let us all be living Jesus saved and not living double moral people who find a way to destroy a human being who is
You have to ask yourself this question about any innocent child in the womb ? And every one of them are innocent. Who has the right to end their life ?
One of the commandments is thou shall not kill . End of story I hope .
What about the 10 year old girl in the news who was raped and became pregnant? Should she be forced to have that child? Was it God's will that a man through lust and perversion raped her and requires her to give birth, at 10. Or was it the will of Satan.
In any other event if we followed the laws of God there would be no need for abortion. Abortion is due to sin. However, refer to above questions for thought.
I used to believe that it was ok to kill a baby if it was from a rape, but have since changed my mind. I think the Bible says somewhere not to return evil for evil. Even though what happened to the mom is wrong its also wrong denying someone's right to life and the life isn't the mom's body, it's God's. If God blesses the woman with a baby then what's wrong with delivering the baby for adoption? Might solve the whole problem?
One thing I'm not resolved on is taking the morning after pill or same day using a hot tub. Maybe I'm wrong but that doesn't seem like murder even though it would be a few hours after potential conception?
"They were raped" That's terrible but the child is innocent. Why does the child have to die for the sin committed in this case. Even celebrity Jack Nicholson stated his disdain for abortion because his mother planned to abort him...and something stopped her from doing so. If a woman's raped she's a victim; if she commits abortion after...she's a murderer.
"Woman was impregnated though incest." Again, that's a terrible sin but the child is innocent. We're not going to weigh one sin vs. another but I can tell you this -- I feel murder weights much heavier than incest.
It's the blood of the innocent.
Proverbs Chapter 6:16-19
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Thank you for those who commented in this thread and haven't been blinded by pretexts to condoning murder of the innocent which is abortion.
Imagine if people petitioned for the mother of Jeremiah to commit abortion. What pretext would we have when you're before God and he shows you these words:
Jeremiah 1:5 - Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
He knows every from the first moment. The question is, do you want the blood on your hands? If you support abortion your hands are just as bloody as they who made it so. Don't be a fool.
Read my below comment. It's murder. You tell a story of someone starving themselves to death after rape as a subtle way of justify abortion (which is murder). There are people who've accidentally killed someone driving and starved themselves out of the depression and guilt. My wife is obviously a woman and she's got a stronger word against this than my own. But it's not about us. We react on emotion and sympathy and that's not how justice is determined in the Word of God.
I'll quote this again but Proverbs 6:16 & 17
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, "
Our finite 'complaints' to justify abortion are bigger than God? God HATEs abortion. Who do you think the innocent were in Proverbs 6? They are an ABOMINATION unto him.
So, like a stated below a woman is raped, this makes her a victim. Again a terrible thing and now she's a victim. The moment she commits abortion she's no longer a victim but a murderer. That's harsh but that's the reality of what we're trying to justify here. Let that sink in. God is bigger than our emotions, our situations and does not and will not ever support murder.
Also remember by all means what a predicament you put a human being in by recognizing that a fetus that has not yet been breathed into its soul can be a life. For a man who sees it, it is a sin! But if it is talk of a man's sperm not going to the ground. Then all illegitimacy, ugliness, abuse and control over us comes instead. This is not in the law. That is why you are now exposing women to abuse.
Because here we are talking about those cases in a married state.
I understand it to mean that all people, unmarried or married, have a life and an Underlife. The abdomen demands its share and lucky is the one who is frigid and lucky is the one who has a partner. Not everyone has that, and then we have those who are really sick.
Then it's a shame. For the man who does not see it, it cannot be sin.
When we talk about order, we must be careful so that we do not suddenly live in a double standard. Some words came to me and we may well ask ourselves how our dear Paul can say the exact opposite of what Jesus says, follow me in Luke 16:18 and Pauls word 1 Corintihans 7:10-11. which then creates great confusion about the question of adultery which can also then be defined within this question. Paul's words arrange everything to be the woman's fault.
Jesus doesn't do that! Humans have their own responsibilities and follow up, don't let yourself be dictated by a law that applies to taking life. No healthy person goes to kill, think about it dear friends. God bless you all, i love you in Christ. Let us all be living Jesus saved and not living double moral people who find a way to destroy a human being who is
One of the commandments is thou shall not kill . End of story I hope .
Thank God he sent Jesus to pay for our sins .
This would be called according to scripture, a carnal Christian.
Did King David commit adultery with Bathsheba and have her husband killed?
Yes.
Murder in the womb and murder outside the womb is still murder.
Thank God for His great mercy, grace and long-suffering for all of us. Saved and lost..
In any other event if we followed the laws of God there would be no need for abortion. Abortion is due to sin. However, refer to above questions for thought.
One thing I'm not resolved on is taking the morning after pill or same day using a hot tub. Maybe I'm wrong but that doesn't seem like murder even though it would be a few hours after potential conception?
What GOD says= Mark 9:42, Matthew 18:6,7,10,14,
Hopefully these help answer
the life of the mother is in jeopardy or their is a physical problem in development. But first action is prayer other than
that a christian should not be pro Abortion absolutely unbiblical!
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