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  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Tongues

    I have never spoken in tongues; although felt on the verge of it on occasion. I had been told by Pentacostals that I had to speak in tongues to be saved; which clearly is errant as God gives gifts severally as He chooses. Nonetheless; I am not going to discount that it is still occurring today; as I have known examples of those in my life with that gifting. However; it is clear with the Kundalini type spirit as one false manifestation that a demonic tongue certainly exists as do many imitations by Satan of God's good gifts from above. Again the lack of discernment is appalling when we see obvious possession taking away any possibility of things being "decent and in order" ( 1 Cor. 14:40). Tongues also rarely are interpreted although I have met individuals who claim they have heard it done properly on occasion.

    It seems to me that there are prayer languages for personal edification; as well as ones to be interpreted in a church congregational setting. Again; to see the forest through the trees it should always be the GIVER of the gifts not the gifts themselves that is sought when we ask for more of the Holy Spirit. That is a prayer Christ Himself is said to fulfill ( Luke 11:13). The fear of God; and impending doom for the unbeliever fits in with the general ministry of the Spirit found in John 16:8-11 where sin; righteousness and judgment to come pierce men's hearts. There are verses where both a sign for nonbelievers and believers is what tongues is said to be meant for. ( 1 Cor. 14:22; 25). This could be the two types of tongues I mentioned or the purpose of ministry emphasizing one gift over the other; in this case prophecy. I'll let someone else tackle that. Again; there should be a surrendered; victorious; fruit bearing life as evidence of tongues or any other gift. Immature believers in the Corinthian church had gifts; but had to be severely rebuked for Paul to set them straight. The transformation shows that they were saved.
  • David - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard IN 1 Corinthians 12:7 Paul writes concerning the manifestation or one of the nine outward displays of the gift

    holy spirit. Best definition I've ever heard is the outward manifestation of the inward prasence of the power of holy

    spirit. In the first century church this was not limited to the apostles other believers spoke in tongues and performed

    miracles etc. It is interesting to note that to the corinthians in 14:18 Paul states I thank God I speak in tongues more than

    ye all. So whats the benefit. Acts 2:11 speaking the wonderful works of God, Private prayer life 1 Cor. 14:4+5 Edification

    of our spirit 1 Cor. 14:4, communication with God in divine mysteries or secrets. 1 Cor. 14:2, giving thanks well 1 Cor 14:17

    keeps us aware we are Gods children and joint heirs with Christ Roman8:16, helps us with our infirmities Romans8:26,

    makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God Romans 8:26+27,strenghthens us with His might in the Inner

    man Ephesians 3:16, sign to unbelievers in the church new people 1 Cor.14:12. These are all the wonderful benefits again all

    things of God are profitable and glorify Him when operated correctly in order with Gods LOVE. P.S. I've seen many times

    these things are more in total confusion. LAST 1 Cor. 14:40 Let everything be done decently and in order. That's Godly Amen



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