Bible Discussion Thread

S Spencer

Is the Gospel necessary? Absolutely!

However some that feast with us don't think so.

Passages in Romans 10 shows great importance in preaching it.

vs 8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, WHICH WE PREACH;

vs 14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and HOW SHALL THEY HEAR WITHOUT A PREACHER?

vs 15) AND HOW SHALL THEY PREACH, EXCEPT THEY BE SENT? as it is written, HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THEM THAT PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, AND BRING GLAD TIDINGS OF GOOD THINGS!

Jesus said Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15.

This same group false theology suggests there's no hell or Satan and everyone goes to heaven so even the word salvation is pointless because there is nothing to be saved from. So the death of Christ doesn't display the love of God.

John 3:16 would have to be an error!

The wide gate in Matthew 7:13 doesn't exist.

There's no consequences to sin, no reward for righteous living by the Spirit.

Those who denied Christ, Hate God, murderer ect... And those who love God will sit down with judas, Paul, Peter, Putin, Hitler and sit down at the marriage supper. So our preaching is in vain.

So why do they earnestly stand in our way? They pretend to be beside you when talking about the trinity but when you mention Faith, Believe, ect.. in regards to salvation they come unglued! Why do they bother if whether you believe or not according to them it doesn't matter? That they won't answer.

They stand in the way when it shouldn't matter to them unless the spirit in them is to deceive!

And This doctrine "Salvation by works is by that same Spirit. As seen in Galatians 3:1 and many other verses.

Brother Spencer,

Amen, good stuff! After reading what you wrote, Romans 16:17 comes to mind, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."



Now I appeal to you, brethren, and listen to this, the command.



Mark them which cause divisions and offences.



The word mark is the work Skopos. We get our word scope from this word. And it in a present participle form in the Greek, which means continue to observe.



Be continually looking at those who cause divisions and offenses, Scandalons, contrary to the doctrine which you have learned.



Paul said in Galatians Chapter 1 that if anybody preaches any other gospel than that which he has preached, let them be accursed.



That's pretty bold and authoritative. If they don't preach. Or if they preach contrary to the doctrine which Paul has taught and has given them, mark them. That's command number one. Command number two is avoid them.



The word avoid means to go out of your way to avoid them. It's the word bend. If you are walking right at somebody, just bend yourself right around them. You give them the message that they are teaching false doctrine.

Steven you are mixing up 2 covenants....The Old Covenant was many are called but few are chosen....But the New Covenant is Jeremiah 31 : 34....God speaking I will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST....This know them all is an intimacy with God ( As Jesus said i neva knew you )....Some he neva knew thus no seed was planted in their hearts...Thus no Child of Promise the H.G....The Kingdom.

.....But listen to what Jesus is saying....If i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me...This is the New Covenant in his blood... Isaiah 65 : 1....I was found of them that sought me not....I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me....Who are these ?

These are they that Christ has drawn unto him of ALL the world of all ppls and nations and tongues...A number that no man can number of all the World....Remember Rev. speaks of a number that no man can number standing before the throne of God and the lamb...( that New Covenant in his blood )...These are they that have come out of great tribulation and made their robes white by the Blood of the lamb...That New COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD DRINK YE ALL OF IT.

.....Steven you just don't understand that its our God that is a consuming fire....That is gonna consume mans Evil adamic nature....Giving us a new HEART and a New Spirit...Which answers to the new heaven and the new earth....There is absolutely nothin wrong with this beautiful earth....Its man evil adamic nature that needs to be burnt up...As our God is a consuming fire... Hebrews 12 : 29 kjv...Which is baptism of the H.G. and fire...Jesus said that every man will have his part in the lake of fire simply b/c its what man needs....Who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap.... Mal 3 : 2 kjv....Its a cleasing fire, Baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE....Whom the lord loveth he chastens...Remember what Jesus said I come not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives..thank you Jesus...GBU STEVEN

Steven GBU...I love ya but you do greatly err....You are not understanding what Jesus did at Calvary...His Blood of this New Covenant is stronger then any kind of a Sin....While we were yet sinners Christ died for ALL men....Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision can plz God....No kind of a work or law can plz God but that New CREATURE...Which is the Regeneration of the H.G. A Baby Christ has to be born in us...Which is the H.G. that CHILD of Promise....Behold i make all things New...Everybody is gonna birth a new CREATURE which is the H.G...Thats y Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains...The Child is the Kingdom... Rev 12

.....Remember what God told Peter what i have made clean ( pass tence ) The CROSS,... Do not call common or unclean....While we were yet sinners Christ died for all men...Thats y he is telling us, Unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil CHILD...A HEAVENLY Birth....you will in no wise enter there in..

Thats y Jesus is saying That which is born of the spirit is spirit...Which is the H.G. that CHILD OF Promise...She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule ALL nations....We are not gonna be judged by our conduct or our actions in the flesh....At that great white throne judgement the only thing that God is gonna see is the blood of the lamb....Remember even back in the O.T....God said when i see the Blood i will pass over you....It didn't matter what you did, when God wd see the BLOOD THE DEATH ANGEL wd pass over them...Remember when Jesus fed the multitudes he didn't cull not 1 single person,..He fed em all with a Childs lunch..Which is the H.G. that Child of Promise...That is gonna be born in us who hears his words and keeps them...The bread of life is his words...Thats y he has to know us thats when the good seed is sown in our hearts....She brought forth aman Child that is gonna rule all Nations.

Steven we are in a NEW Covenant of his Blood....There is not 1 person who can escape the wrath of the lamb...His Blood etc.