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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 198362

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Ann - 2 years ago
    I recently had a pastor of a nondenominational church who said, to me, that either the KJV bible or all versions of the bible were not written by God. I'm not sure which he meant but either way I left the church immediately. I'm not a KJV only condeming christian but I do believe the KJV is the one true bible. He preached out of the NIV and I just followed along with my KJV but when he said it or all bibles were not written by God I felt like I just couldn't sit under his preaching anymore. He was rather rude about it, too. I loved the people of this church and if he had just been a member of the congreation I would have stayed. The only persons I told were my daughter who attends this church but I knew would keep it in confidence and my son who does not attend this church. My question is should I have stayed or was it good that I left so as not to sit under his false preaching?
  • Following the Holy Spirit - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Always seek the Holy Spirit when conflicted in the heart. All Churches have posted: TENETS OF OUR FAITH. It can be googled online when searching for another Church.

    If you never saw that posted in your former Church, then to demand everyone to use the same version of Bible, is really counter-productive. Jesus called us to: whom so ever will. He didn't attach variation requirements.

    I was a Streetpreacher for 36 years. The Gospel is a PERSON: Jesus Christ.

    I wont disparage on that Pastor or congregation, if they have new births into the Kingdom of God.

    Be at peace in your heart. i believe you heard from the Holy Spirit. Sometimes He has moved me to other congregations too. Ask for His help. He will lead you. Be friendly and He will bring new friends into your path.

    Sometimes that is how singles find a marriage partner. The Bible says don't forsake gathering together. Period. We're not constrained to just one Church. We are THE CHURCH.

    I attended a church that believed all single people should get married ASAP. Within that Church! I made a quick exit. It was a fine church, but this "doctrine" was unscriptural.

    Every time God has put me "on the road" to other cities, I bloomed where I was planted. I've moved 22 times in my life lol. To other cities, states. I can streetpreach on all sidewalks. There are lost people everywhere, and the Harvest is plentiful.

    Bloom where the Lord plants you.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I have a copy of the interlinear KJV. Parallel New Testament in Greek and English. Even so, with this understanding, one must come to Christ without reservation. Believeing that He, and His Father are one!

    That Jesus Christ has the power to forgive sin! Our salavation has been determined, As Christ did what only God could have done! If all the bibles were removed from the earth tomarrow, could it be enough to remove Him from your heart removing what you believe and have been taught?

    A pastor is a Sheperd! If this one, has told that this KJV is not infallible, than He is a thief and a robber!
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ann,

    Whereas God did not do the actual physical writing of the O.T. and N.T, He did supernaturally inspire each Scripture writer to write what He determined should be included in the Scriptures. This inspiration is not like someone being "inspired by something and then to write a poem or song. This type of inspiration is of the natural man, not directly from God. The inspiration of Scriptures is "God-breathed" as it says in 2 Tim. 3:16. God impressed His thoughts, truths, and accounts of historical events into the minds of the writers as they wrote what the Holy Spirit guided them to write.

    The original writings of the books of the Bible are truly inspired without error. The copying and translating that occurred over the centuries has contained errors but most errors have been corrected upon re-translation to leave the translated Bibles 98% or so accurate. We can trust the Scriptures that are translated for us as highly accurate Words from God to us in our time.

    Ann, it was probably best for you to leave this fellowship. It is not always easy to do that (I have done that before and it was sorrowful) but we should wish to be under the instruction and pastorship of one who preaches with integrity and espoused the integrity and accuracy of the Scriptures He preaches from. I pray that God will lead you to a better fellowship situation and that He will also lead your daughter and son to a better one also.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I've heard lots of false teachings in the church and pastors are fallible just like anyone else.

    I watch out for people making up their own absolutist statements not backed by anything Biblical. Either this or that, no exceptions! A common pop culture generic phrase is "either you love it or hate it" which I believe is false.

    So, is KJV God's word? Yes. Can other translations also be God's word? In my opinion, yes. The reality is that English as a language does change over time. If you read English a few hundred years ago you'd think it is a foreign language. Also some phrases can have different ways of conveying the same meaning. So, for example, if a translation converts Thou shalt to you should, the meaning is the same. I believe God can use that and someone who genuinely seeks Him I believe will not be hindered by this and that God will honor those who pursue Him. I believe people have found Christ by not even having or owning a Bible. I believe some in prisons have only had small sections torn out to read.

    But is it possible to have a bad or worldly translation? Yes, I know of one "Bible" that is actually changed to conform to be pro-LGBT and "progressive" and they flat out admitted that they changed the Bible. This is wrong and is a lie and God will judge them appropriately. God bless you.
  • William legon - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ann you are right in what you King James 1611 correct.
  • Vince Willard - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes the Bible was wrote by God by people on earth he appointed to write the Bible. And Jesus had His Disciples and the Apostles to write the New Testament of the King James Version.



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