What's the real meaning when GOD said to Moses I Am That I Am, And I am have sent to you?
Does this mean that trough the I Am we are all Gods and creators, or that GOD is a being and so HE/SHE impregnate everything and so everything is HIM/HER?
Are we so co creator of the universe? Do Christians really need the Old Testament, even though in many parts it contradicts the words O Jesus Christ?
I will speak to your first question of what does I AM THAT I AM mean?
I have read that this name means "The eternal self-existing one" which means that God is the source of His own existence and His existence is eternal, without beginning nor ending.
Dear Adam I searched that in the Septuagint Text (not the Masoretic), where instead of YAHWEH (I AM WHO I AM) the ancient translators translated this name from Hebrew to Greek as "THE EXISTING" [God]. (So GiGi is right in her post)
The Septuagint Text was a translation of the OT done during the 3rd centuary BC for the Jews that inhabited the Greek influenced world at that time, and spoke the Greek language not Hebrew. This translation was done during a time that Jews still knew exactly what YAHWEH meant.
So when Jesus said to Jews "before Abraham I am", He most possibly meant "before Abraham I exist". Not existed but exist, before-now-and for ever.
But I like Grae's interpetation a lot, as well, " I will manifest myself in whom I will manifest myself or , I will b who I will b or , I will reveal myself in whom I will reveal myself "
1st Timothy Ch 3 V 16 and plenty of others indicate that God manifested Himself in Christ , this to me is not talking about Jesus physical form but God's Holy Spirit in Christ . If u have seen me u have seen the Father , the Jews didn't recognise that God was in Christ , if they couldn't recognise that God was in Christ then they weren't going to show Jesus in his body of flesh any kindness . They were to busy criticizing the human in front of them to recognise the Spirit in him . They couldn't c the Truth , they were walking by sight not in faith , looking at the physical and completely ignoring the Spirit of Truth . God was manifesting Himself in Christ physical body but the Jews couldn't c beyond the physical body of Christ . This ties in with what that elderly brother told me about the meaning of I Am . He had a good knowledge of Hebrew , and of the Truth . May he rest in peace .
I believe it means : I will manifest myself in whom I will manifest myself or , I will b who I will b or , I will reveal myself in whom I will reveal myself . An elderly brother taught me that many years ago . It of course points forward in time to Jesus who is Emanuel which means God with us . God is a spirit but Jesus says if u have seen me u have seen my Father , I don't believe that Jesus is referring to his physical body but is referring to God's Spirit which Jesus received without measure and which without , he would not have been able to do the works that he did or say the things that he did with such authority and power . God's power in him .
You asked some interesting questions and made some interesting suppositions.
I haven't researched this thoroughly but my current understanding of God saying "I AM" is a proclamation of who He is, including His greatness, glory, power, divinity. The English language is probably insufficient to properly convey just how awesome He is. Jesus also said "I am" in the New Testament, and people ironically accused Him of blasphemy.
I'm not quite following your next statements about you thinking you're a god? Do you believe this is related to the "I am" statements? Do you believe 1 Corinthians 8:6 where it says there is only one God and Lord? If there's only one, then I would think that would automatically invalidate anyone claiming there are more gods and make that an untrue statement, would it not?
Do you consider yourself a follower of Christ? There's a great link on becoming a Christian at the bottom of the page with many helpful verses.
Nothing in the Bible contradicts itself. People find "apparent" inconsistencies and are often quick to make these claims, but when someone actually researches deeper one usually realizes the truth and that it's all consistent. If you have a specific example of how you drew your conclusion that could help with a dialog.
Sadly, some who post here occasionally have unpure motives when posting sometimes and may only be trolling or have other objectives, but I trust that you are genuinely asking with an open mind, so this is my genuine response in attempt to help you. God bless.
It's the LIVING WORD that teaches us by studying his written word: He wrote it; he will CAUSE you to understand, his word.
You have not, because you ASK NOT, and when you ask, you ask amiss; things to be consumed by the flesh.
To whom much is GIVEN ....The LIFE of Christ ....much more will be GIVEN .... the MIND (knowledge and wisdom) of Christ.
Stand firm in what the SPIRIT teaches YOU.
Psalms 82:6 I have SAID ( Isaiah 55:11) Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:35 If he (the written word) called them gods, unto whom (unto Francesco) the (living) WORD (Christ in you) came, the scripture CANNOT be broken.
God bless YOU, the body of CHRIST, and Christ is the body of GOD, OUR Father.
What's the real meaning when GOD said to Moses I Am That I Am, And I am have sent to you?
Does this mean that trough the I Am we are all Gods and creators, or that GOD is a being and so HE/SHE impregnate everything and so everything is HIM/HER?
Are we so co creator of the universe? Do Christians really need the Old Testament, even though in many parts it contradicts the words O Jesus Christ?
Thank you.
Francesco Rossi
I will speak to your first question of what does I AM THAT I AM mean?
I have read that this name means "The eternal self-existing one" which means that God is the source of His own existence and His existence is eternal, without beginning nor ending.
The Septuagint Text was a translation of the OT done during the 3rd centuary BC for the Jews that inhabited the Greek influenced world at that time, and spoke the Greek language not Hebrew. This translation was done during a time that Jews still knew exactly what YAHWEH meant.
So when Jesus said to Jews "before Abraham I am", He most possibly meant "before Abraham I exist". Not existed but exist, before-now-and for ever.
GBU
Christ is the BODY of his Father's PRESENCE.
We are the Body of Christ's PRESENCE.
Isaiah 63:9 ....and the angel of HIS PRESENCE SAVED THEM ........
Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE Spirit (the only life)......One Body (that hold's that Life) ......
Ephesians 4:6 .....ONE God .....and Father of ALL ...and above ALL ....and through ALL ....and IN YOU ALL ....
God Bless YOU, his body.
You asked some interesting questions and made some interesting suppositions.
I haven't researched this thoroughly but my current understanding of God saying "I AM" is a proclamation of who He is, including His greatness, glory, power, divinity. The English language is probably insufficient to properly convey just how awesome He is. Jesus also said "I am" in the New Testament, and people ironically accused Him of blasphemy.
I'm not quite following your next statements about you thinking you're a god? Do you believe this is related to the "I am" statements? Do you believe 1 Corinthians 8:6 where it says there is only one God and Lord? If there's only one, then I would think that would automatically invalidate anyone claiming there are more gods and make that an untrue statement, would it not?
Do you consider yourself a follower of Christ? There's a great link on becoming a Christian at the bottom of the page with many helpful verses.
Nothing in the Bible contradicts itself. People find "apparent" inconsistencies and are often quick to make these claims, but when someone actually researches deeper one usually realizes the truth and that it's all consistent. If you have a specific example of how you drew your conclusion that could help with a dialog.
Sadly, some who post here occasionally have unpure motives when posting sometimes and may only be trolling or have other objectives, but I trust that you are genuinely asking with an open mind, so this is my genuine response in attempt to help you. God bless.
Thank you for your interesting reply.
I'm not say that we are Gods, however, if the meaning of I'm is to be, that means that in being we become Gods. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
In the old testament there's a statement, where it says teeth for teeth and eye for eye. However, Jesus said love your neighbour and enemy.
Thank you.
Francesco
It's the LIVING WORD that teaches us by studying his written word: He wrote it; he will CAUSE you to understand, his word.
You have not, because you ASK NOT, and when you ask, you ask amiss; things to be consumed by the flesh.
To whom much is GIVEN ....The LIFE of Christ ....much more will be GIVEN .... the MIND (knowledge and wisdom) of Christ.
Stand firm in what the SPIRIT teaches YOU.
Psalms 82:6 I have SAID ( Isaiah 55:11) Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:35 If he (the written word) called them gods, unto whom (unto Francesco) the (living) WORD (Christ in you) came, the scripture CANNOT be broken.
God bless YOU, the body of CHRIST, and Christ is the body of GOD, OUR Father.
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