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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 198714

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  • DANIEL HARRIS - 2 years ago
    Does the kjv bible tell the age of accountably
  • Luke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Understanding what baptism is about makes them accountable, Knowledge makes them accountable no matter the age.
  • Why The Ten Commandments result in Happiness - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I'm 71, and 36 years a Christian. I believe the age of accountability is when a child exhibits knowledge of Good and Evil, also what's truth and what is a Lie.

    Deuteronomy 11-12, teaches what God expects of parenting and teaching Your Own Children. His teaching is ABOVE Public Schools. SCHOOLS TODAY will not teach morals or Godly Principles. It is the parent(s) responsibility. Write that scripture reference inside the cover of your Bible. Also, Exodus 19:5; Ten Commandments from Exodus 20:1-17

    In my household with my son, we had all of the above teaching. Punishment for bad behavior, I called it "misdemeanors or felonies". Lying and getting caught or scaring me to death, was a felony= a non-violent spanking. NEVER administered in anger!

    Misdemeanors resulted in loss of some favorite toys for a period of time. They were locked up. This was usually for not completing homework from school. Cleaning his room.

    The deal was: "if you do it as I asked you to do, I will never invade your space". He had to learn privacy is not learned. It is EARNED.

    Lying was not tolerated. I told him if you are truthful with me, no matter what, I will forgive you. He's 45 now, and he teaches his son exactly as he was taught from me.

    It gives me deep gratefulness to live this. Gods Word will live on and be carried forward into the future in our children; if we teach it as God told us to. Oprah and Dr Phil DO NOT teach this.

    The 10 Commandments are not suggestions. If we ignore them, we will have difficult lives.

    Mishael
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Mishael,

    That is a good way to connect accountability for sinful behavior in children with the authority of civil law to exact penalty for breaking the law.

    As far as age of accountability goes, I know that children as young as toddler age are aware when they are doing something wrong. They will hide, deny, hang their head, run away, etc from a parent because they feel guilty. I have even seen a toddler repeat "No, no, no, no" as they do something they have been told not to do. Are these sins? I would say yes. Are these toddlers and very young children accountable for their sin? I would say yes, since they knew they were doing something wrong. Will their sin be held against them by God? I would say yes, too. However, I would say I believe that the sacrifice of Jesus does cover these sins in the very young. He took these sins upon Himself on the cross just like the sins of everyone else. The difference is that God shows mercy towards these very young children in forgiving them through. Jesus because they are not of an age yet to understand that they are sinning against God. They know that they are disobeying their parents, but not that they are disobeying God. Also, at this age, the concept of the existence of God, Whom cannot be seen or cannot be heard speaking is an abstract idea that young children are not very capable of considering or understanding. They think very concretely and according to what they can physically sense.

    As Christian parents, we teach our children from infancy about God. We pray with them. We bring them to church to fellowship with other young children whose parents are believers. In such an environment, our children may come to an age of accountability at a younger age than a child raised by non-Christian parents.

    I remember reading where children of believers are sanctified because of the faith of a parent ( 1 Corinthians 7:14). I am not sure what this means.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    GiGi,

    I can share what I've learned about 1 Corinthians 7:14. Some believe that the word sanctified means salvation, but it doesn't. It does have to do with salvation in that the act of the Holy Spirit and being set apart, and that's what he is saying here, is that if a non-believer is pleased to dwell with the believer, that person is living under the influence of the Holy Spirit in the believer's life.

    Also, at the end, and I'll share the literal translation about children. It says else "were" your children, but it is literally else "are" your children unclean; but now they are holy. It doesn't say that they are clean. They're still unclean. The word holy (HAGIOS) is the same word for sanctification. They're unclean but they are set apart to be under the Lord's influence through the believer.



    An example can be found in 1 Peter 3:1-7 about the woman who had a non-believing husband. He says live your life from out of your heart in front of him. Don't try to impress him with outward dress and appearance, but let him see the hidden person of the heart so that there's a possibility that he might be saved. There's no guarantee. So the non-believer is still not forgiven, he's not saved. The children are still unclean, but they are set apart to be under the influence of God's Spirit in the believer.



    Another scripture that is similar is found in Acts 16:31, "Believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." I've actually heard people say that this is a promise you can claim, that if you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for yourself, and if you believe for your whole house, everybody in your household is going to get saved, guaranteed!

    That's not true because if we look at Verse 32, it says that not only did they speak it to him (The jailor), but they also preached to everyone in his house. What they are saying is that this is not only for you, but also for every member in your house. Everybody must believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Mishael,

    I love it!!! I am still cracking up about the "misdemeanors or felonies" explanation. I had to go back up and read your first paragraph over because I was laughing so much that I forgot what you said about the age of accountability. You are spot on, and have given some great scripture references. I always enjoy reading your posts. And thank you so much for making my day with your humor. I almost spilled my coffee!



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