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When we talk about Communion ( his Words ) we need to realize that there is a hidden Agenda in Communion with him.....His Words are the Bread of life but his Words are also the good Seeds that are gona form a baby Christ in us.....There is a Child hid in the waters of the Word....Remember when Pharoah's Daughter came to the Nile to wash a type of baptism of the H.G...She found a Child hid in the River....And that lil Child became her very own Son.....There is a Child hid in the waters of the Word....The bread of LIFE Communion.....Thats y i tell folks that there is a hidden Agenda in Communion....Its Child birth.....Even in the O.T. the manna from heaven was like Coriander seed....The seed of the sower is the bread from heaven and what initiates the New Birth....The bread of LIFE... that good seed is also the Word the bread of life...These things are HID from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes.... Rev 3:17 Remember the Hidden manna was a New Name simply b/c the New Name is symbolic of a New baby Christ that is gonna be born in us who eat his Hidden manna Communion .....Thats y the Woman is giving birth to the Children... the H.G the Children of Promise....The kingdom....Unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.... Ephesians 5:26 .....Speaks of the Cleansing water of the Word....But in this river of the Word there is a Child hid....The H.G....The Children of Promise...An Israel of God....You are made CLEAN by the word i have spoken unto you.....The bread of life is his Word...
..... Rev. 3:20....Behold i stand at the door and knock if any man hears my voice ( his words his seed ) And opens the door....I will come into him and Sup Sup (Communion) with him and he with me ....This is when he KNOWS us and his good seed is sown in our hearts but its also the bread of life..And thank God that this knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...Which is an intimacy with him initiating a birth of H.G..
JL ..When Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood....Many walked away saying this is a hard saying who can HEAR IT ....Jesus was the living Word made flesh and blood....Thus the only way we can ingest his flesh and blood is by Hearing his voice the living Words of God....Its actually Communion in the Spirit as his bread, his Words are spirit and life...Even in the natual bread is life.....But there is another facet to his Communion....there is a spritualy pregnancy involved in this Communion ....As his words have the ability to form a Baby Christ in us....Resulting in a heavenly birth.....Even in the natural Communion is an intimacy as his words are spirit and life....Thats how he knows us by sowing his seed in our hearts ...Which is gonna result in a Child..The H.G. That Child of Promise..The multiplication of very God...To whom the word came ( his seeds ) it made them Gods...Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen...Which is the H.G. the Children of PROMISE
.....Behold i stand at the door and knock if any man hears MY WORDS ( The bread of life the Seeds of the sower ) and opens the door i will come in and SUP ( Communion ) with him....There is a second facet to Communion and its Child birth....That GOOD SEED IS the bread of God but it also has the potential to form a baby Christ in us.....His good seed has the ability to form FAITH in us...And Faith is a spritual pregnancy.....That results in a birth of Christ in us....We are bornagain by his good seeds that is also the bread of LIFE.....Our communion is with the brdegroom Christ Jesus....Thus the woman with Child which is the H.G. which is the result of his seed COMMUNION....Remember in the O.T. the Manna was like Coriander Seed ....Jesus said your fathers in the wilderness ate manna that bread from heaven....But they all died this is that bread from heaven that if a man eats he will neva die..My lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you..
Ok i get it now. I just could not beleive he was actually talking about eating his body and drinking his blood, then there would not be enough him to go around back in that time. Ok i completely under stand now. Thanks for clearing that up.
Jesus gives the explanation in Verse 63. You see, had they stuck around and asked Jesus about it, they would have understood. But I think it is interesting how Jesus will put parables out there and nobody would understand what it is. And if you want to understand what it is, He explained it to the disciples who came to Him, not the people who listened to Him and went, "Well I don't know what He is talking about," and then they leave. It was the people who want to find out what it means.
Interesting! He could have just said this to all the multitudes before they left. "Hey, let me explain to you because we don't want to lose you. You are already in our church directory and we don't want to lose you!"
But Jesus says in John 6:63, It is the spirit that quickeneth; and the word quickeneth means make alive. It is the spirit that makes alive, the flesh profits nothing:
Did you hear that? There is no spiritual benefit in the flesh. None! The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. They are not physical. It is spirit. It is not physical life. It is spiritual life. So, He says everything that I just told you about my flesh, and my blood, take that and change it into spiritual metaphors and you'll have what it means.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I hope this helps to give you a better understanding of what it means to eat His flesh and drink His blood!
Thank you. Jesse, for such a good explanation of this topic.
I do think that Jesus was speaking of spiritual nourishment in this text. And, yes, it is the Spirit that gives life, not the flesh. So eternal life cannot be attained from man to God, rather from God to man in the person of Jesus Christ. Even our physical body is not alive without being given life by the Spirit to be conceived and grow to maturity, but this physical life ends. But eternal life IS communion with God, which is attained through our Savior, Jesus Christ by faith from the working of regeneration by the Holy Spirit. And then, forevermore, the Spirit of God will indwell us and sustain us. And we are communion with God the Father, through the Son, Jesus, will be eternally unbroken. How blessed we are in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Blessed, from the word MAKARIOS which means to experience the fulness of something or someone. We are blessed/Makarios because we have the creator of the entire universe living inside us and we get to experience Him in His fullness!
Yes, there had to be blood on the door posts. But one of the requirements was that the lamb from whom the blood came, you had to eat that lamb, and eat every bit of it that night, nothing left over. You had to actually participate with the lamb whose blood is on your door post.
That's all a picture from God of symbolism, or metaphorical use if you will, about the salvation message. It is not just about believing that Jesus died for you, and shed His blood for you, but you must take Him in, spiritually. You must feed on Christ spiritually. He is the bread of life!
It is not to be taken literally as drinking His blood and eating His flesh. If we have Christ in us, we will never hunger and we will never thirst because we are fellowshipping with and feeding on the bread of life constantly. So Jesus is presenting Himself as that Lamb, Jewish symbolism!
So Jesus says no more physical miracles of feeding you with physical food. Now it's all spiritual. Now you must be satisfied with me. I am the bread of life, not the physical bread, but the spiritual bread. And from now on you must feed on me. And if you feed on me, you will live.
But they obviously still did not understand it because look at what it says in Verse 60, "Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?" Notice who is saying it? His disciples! Not of the 12, but He has got many disciples now. But many of those who proclaim to be disciples of Jesus Christ, when they heard it, they said this is just too hard! What is He implying here? I don't even want to get into it. I am out of here!
I will finish this out with one more short post, I promise!!!
Here's what I can share with you on this. It may be a little lengthy, but please bear with me.
(Part 1)
In John 6:52-59, we see the perplexity of eating His flesh and drinking His blood. So, these people are perplexed. In Verse 52, the Jews asked how can this man give us His flesh to eat? And then in Verse 53, Jesus begins to give an explanation. Jesus says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." Gross huh? Welcome to Christianity!
In Verses 54-57, Jesus says, "Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
That sounds kind of deep! In fact, that's the reason and the teaching why the multitudes left. Remember, there were 15 to 20 thousand people that were fed the day before. And now these same people are listening to somebody telling them about cannibalism. (Please keep this is mind because this is very important). This multitude of people were there looking for more physical food. But Jesus is not talking about feeding them physically, but spiritually.
What does Jesus mean? He explains it to the disciples later in the chapter, but He doesn't explain it to the public. His words are spirit and they are life. It is not flesh. When He says "Eat of my flesh and drink of my blood," if you think about it from a Jewish perspective, it makes more sense.
If you remember, when Jesus was introduced to Israel, He was introduced as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin of the world. I want to emphasize to you from the book of Exodus that it wasn't just the blood over the door posts that saved a household from the Angel of death in order for the Angel of death to Passover.
Believing on Christ was exactly the same thing as eating and drinking Him. flesh...blood. A Figure of speech, an idiom put for the whole Person.
Idiom: A speech form or an expression of a given language that is peculiar to itself grammatically or cannot be understood from the individual meanings of its elements, as in keep tabs on
Even where eating is used of the devouring of enemies, it is the enjoyment of in Ecc. 5:19; 6:2; for "riches" cannot be eaten; and the Talmud actually speaks of eating (i.e. enjoying) "the years of Messiah", and instead of finding any difficulty in the figure
they said that the days of Hezekiah were so good that "Messiah will come no more to Israel; for they have already devoured Him in the days of Hezekiah".victory that is included.
..... Rev. 3:20....Behold i stand at the door and knock if any man hears my voice ( his words his seed ) And opens the door....I will come into him and Sup Sup (Communion) with him and he with me ....This is when he KNOWS us and his good seed is sown in our hearts but its also the bread of life..And thank God that this knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...Which is an intimacy with him initiating a birth of H.G..
.....Behold i stand at the door and knock if any man hears MY WORDS ( The bread of life the Seeds of the sower ) and opens the door i will come in and SUP ( Communion ) with him....There is a second facet to Communion and its Child birth....That GOOD SEED IS the bread of God but it also has the potential to form a baby Christ in us.....His good seed has the ability to form FAITH in us...And Faith is a spritual pregnancy.....That results in a birth of Christ in us....We are bornagain by his good seeds that is also the bread of LIFE.....Our communion is with the brdegroom Christ Jesus....Thus the woman with Child which is the H.G. which is the result of his seed COMMUNION....Remember in the O.T. the Manna was like Coriander Seed ....Jesus said your fathers in the wilderness ate manna that bread from heaven....But they all died this is that bread from heaven that if a man eats he will neva die..My lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you..
Jesus gives the explanation in Verse 63. You see, had they stuck around and asked Jesus about it, they would have understood. But I think it is interesting how Jesus will put parables out there and nobody would understand what it is. And if you want to understand what it is, He explained it to the disciples who came to Him, not the people who listened to Him and went, "Well I don't know what He is talking about," and then they leave. It was the people who want to find out what it means.
Interesting! He could have just said this to all the multitudes before they left. "Hey, let me explain to you because we don't want to lose you. You are already in our church directory and we don't want to lose you!"
But Jesus says in John 6:63, It is the spirit that quickeneth; and the word quickeneth means make alive. It is the spirit that makes alive, the flesh profits nothing:
Did you hear that? There is no spiritual benefit in the flesh. None! The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. They are not physical. It is spirit. It is not physical life. It is spiritual life. So, He says everything that I just told you about my flesh, and my blood, take that and change it into spiritual metaphors and you'll have what it means.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I hope this helps to give you a better understanding of what it means to eat His flesh and drink His blood!
Great lesson.
Thanks and God bless.
Good to see you back on here. I have not seen you for awhile. Hope all is well with you!
I've been mostly following a few posts and popping up here and there.
God bless you.
I do think that Jesus was speaking of spiritual nourishment in this text. And, yes, it is the Spirit that gives life, not the flesh. So eternal life cannot be attained from man to God, rather from God to man in the person of Jesus Christ. Even our physical body is not alive without being given life by the Spirit to be conceived and grow to maturity, but this physical life ends. But eternal life IS communion with God, which is attained through our Savior, Jesus Christ by faith from the working of regeneration by the Holy Spirit. And then, forevermore, the Spirit of God will indwell us and sustain us. And we are communion with God the Father, through the Son, Jesus, will be eternally unbroken. How blessed we are in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amen and blessed indeed!
Blessed, from the word MAKARIOS which means to experience the fulness of something or someone. We are blessed/Makarios because we have the creator of the entire universe living inside us and we get to experience Him in His fullness!
Yes, there had to be blood on the door posts. But one of the requirements was that the lamb from whom the blood came, you had to eat that lamb, and eat every bit of it that night, nothing left over. You had to actually participate with the lamb whose blood is on your door post.
That's all a picture from God of symbolism, or metaphorical use if you will, about the salvation message. It is not just about believing that Jesus died for you, and shed His blood for you, but you must take Him in, spiritually. You must feed on Christ spiritually. He is the bread of life!
It is not to be taken literally as drinking His blood and eating His flesh. If we have Christ in us, we will never hunger and we will never thirst because we are fellowshipping with and feeding on the bread of life constantly. So Jesus is presenting Himself as that Lamb, Jewish symbolism!
So Jesus says no more physical miracles of feeding you with physical food. Now it's all spiritual. Now you must be satisfied with me. I am the bread of life, not the physical bread, but the spiritual bread. And from now on you must feed on me. And if you feed on me, you will live.
But they obviously still did not understand it because look at what it says in Verse 60, "Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?" Notice who is saying it? His disciples! Not of the 12, but He has got many disciples now. But many of those who proclaim to be disciples of Jesus Christ, when they heard it, they said this is just too hard! What is He implying here? I don't even want to get into it. I am out of here!
I will finish this out with one more short post, I promise!!!
Here's what I can share with you on this. It may be a little lengthy, but please bear with me.
(Part 1)
In John 6:52-59, we see the perplexity of eating His flesh and drinking His blood. So, these people are perplexed. In Verse 52, the Jews asked how can this man give us His flesh to eat? And then in Verse 53, Jesus begins to give an explanation. Jesus says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." Gross huh? Welcome to Christianity!
In Verses 54-57, Jesus says, "Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
That sounds kind of deep! In fact, that's the reason and the teaching why the multitudes left. Remember, there were 15 to 20 thousand people that were fed the day before. And now these same people are listening to somebody telling them about cannibalism. (Please keep this is mind because this is very important). This multitude of people were there looking for more physical food. But Jesus is not talking about feeding them physically, but spiritually.
What does Jesus mean? He explains it to the disciples later in the chapter, but He doesn't explain it to the public. His words are spirit and they are life. It is not flesh. When He says "Eat of my flesh and drink of my blood," if you think about it from a Jewish perspective, it makes more sense.
If you remember, when Jesus was introduced to Israel, He was introduced as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin of the world. I want to emphasize to you from the book of Exodus that it wasn't just the blood over the door posts that saved a household from the Angel of death in order for the Angel of death to Passover.
Idiom: A speech form or an expression of a given language that is peculiar to itself grammatically or cannot be understood from the individual meanings of its elements, as in keep tabs on
Even where eating is used of the devouring of enemies, it is the enjoyment of in Ecc. 5:19; 6:2; for "riches" cannot be eaten; and the Talmud actually speaks of eating (i.e. enjoying) "the years of Messiah", and instead of finding any difficulty in the figure
they said that the days of Hezekiah were so good that "Messiah will come no more to Israel; for they have already devoured Him in the days of Hezekiah".victory that is included.
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