Bible Discussion Thread

In Revelation Chapter 3:5 ""All who are victorious will be clothed in white. I will never erase their names from the book of Life....." I thought once your name was written in the book of Life then you are guaranteed a seat in heaven. This scripture implies that your name can be erased based on how you live your life. I would love to hear what other think about this scripture.

Brenda good question....But we must remember what Jesus said in John 10:29....My Father that gave them me is GREATER THEN ALL and NO MAN is able to pluck them out of my FATHER HANDS....While we were yet sinners Christ died for us...WE are not our own...We were all bought with a price...His blood of that New Covenant....In Rev. 5 there is a book that Jesus wrote with his own blood of a New Covenant....And His Blood is not eraseable....Thats y Roman 8 is saying there is therefore no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus....Even in the O.T....Once the Blood was applied to the mercy seat it cd not be erased or washed away for 1 yr it was an annual thing.... but now under this NEW Covenant its for all the world for eternity

.....We are bornagain by his LIVING WORDS...And Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but MY WORDS WILL NEVA PASSAWAY....Our conduct does not keep us simply b/c of Satan and his Tares makes us do things we donot consent unto....As Paul said if i do something i do not consent unto its not i that does it but sin that dwells in my Members.. Romans 7:6 kjv....Thus Satan will tell you O YOU HAVE SINNED THUS YOUR NAME IS BLOTTED OUT OF HIS BOOK...But thats not true simply b/c there is no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit...

There is no man that is stronger then God Almighty God including the devil ....And Jesus said my Father that gave them to me is greater then all and no man can pluck them out of my FATHERS HANDS....PERIOD....Thus Jesus will not lose any of his sheep

Well said, Alex. hope you are having a good day today.

Gi-Gi ....Sorry for my reply in lower case letters....I didn't type it this way....But it came back in lower case letters...Sorry GBU SWEETY...

Hiya gi gi...thanks gbu too.

Dear Alex,

I really would not have noticed the lower case. I am not that sensitive, anyway. But thanks for the clarification. GiGi or gigi or both ok with me.

I hope you are doing well today. I will be canning beans and pickles today. Did the same last week. My garden has produced well. Thank you LORD!

Brenda. Not to be confusing since Christian's those who confess Romans 10:9+10

As you said our sin or sins are forgiven i.e. age of grace it is not of works then the

Question is who are the seven churches because they are being judged by their

Works? We will face the bema and be rewarded for our service and not judged by

When we sinned. So since believers don't face judgement and are righteous in

God's eyes by Jesus Christ I don't see how those assemblies are about the church

In the age of grace. P.S. also the book of revelation is written in old testament

Nomenclature and does not purtain to the church of God in the age of grace

Because we will be gathered together before the appearing starts.

Dear Brenda

You have pointed out a very important thing, that salvation can be lost, our name can be literally erased from the Book of Life. When? When we don't end up victorious in our course of life.

Paul says to Timothy about himself.

1 Timothy 4:6-9

"For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

Hence forth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."

And then he says in verse 10 "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica;...""

So for one to get the crown of righteousness, he has to fight the good fight, to finish his course and to keep his faith. To be victorious in his christian life (by God's power and grace). If not then he will not inherit the Kingdom of God. And one doesn't know when his life is going to end, so we must be always ready. That is why in another part of the Bible ( Philippians 2:12) Pauls advices christians to work out their salvation with fear and trembling. God will always work in us to bring us in the right position of righteousness but He needs our cooperation and obedience. If one becomes like Demas who eventually loved and returned to his previous sinful life then he will not enter into eternal life. Remember Lot's wife. If one has love for this sinful world in his heart he won't be able to follow Jesus till the end. His love for other things will deviate him from his goal. If one is a lukewarm christian like the 5 unwise virgins of the known parable then he will be left out of the Marriage etc.

God Blessings

This is a good passage Brenda, that clearly highlights the condition of many calling themselves 'Christian', but are not. In fact, Revelation 3:1-6, speaks about the Church in Sardis, that was in its death throes. They "had a name" in their community, but were in fact a defeated Church, entertaining sin, & about to expire. But, Jesus says, 'there were a few among them (only a few) that remained pure from engaging in evil - and these were worthy to be with Him.'

So in verse 5, Jesus speaks about those who are true believers & are victors (overcomers) & there names are secure in the Book of Life. I looked at the Greek for "I will not blot out his name", and there seems to be an emphasis there, rendering it as 'I will 'no not' blot out his name'. We know from Ephesians 1:4-14, that those who belong to Jesus have been chosen, predestined to adoption, having received redemption, an inheritance, and been sealed with the Holy Spirit. That speaks to us of complete security in Christ.

Unfortunately, most in the Sardis Church were still carnal unregenerate folk & they were told to set things right in their hearts lest they face judgement. But a few were true to the Lord & kept themselves clean - these ones were secure in Christ & their names indelibly inscribed in the Book of Life. So does that mean that some can have their names blotted out & at some future date be rewritten back in, etc. etc.? I understand that Jesus is emphasizing the fact that it is an impossibility for true believers (those fully trusting in the Lord & walking in His Spirit) to have their names removed - once written, never, no never blotted out.