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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 201715

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Stacie - 2 years ago
    Are we truly predestined by God and I names written in the book of life and if so, then does this mean that no matter what we do or believe will not change our out come in wether we are chosen for heaven or hell or that our names are or are not written in the book of life? Also if so where do those who believe in God but their predestination was not by God for the book of eternal life then do those people just go to hell no matter how they much the believe or do?
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Stacie. The questions you ask require much input, but I would firstly direct you to 1 Peter chapter 1 for your meditation. And especially verses 1 & 2, where the Apostle Peter writes to the believers in Asia Minor as to why God has caused them to be part of the Elect (or, chosen) of God.

    They were not chosen randomly, some to be saved & others rejected, but chosen because of what God knew about them. God knew even before we were born, how our lives would pan out, our younger years, our careers, our struggles in life & even the day of our death. So they, & us, are the chosen of God because of His Foreknowledge (He is an Omniscient God): knowledge of how we will respond to Him & the Gospel. And Peter says that this foreknowledge of God involved the sinner being cleansed by Christ's shed Blood at Calvary & the sanctifying (setting apart) Work of the Holy Spirit. So knowing all this, there are certain people who have been ordained to receive God's Salvation & others who are not. And God also knew the ones who would not receive salvation because He knew they would reject the Gospel, or if they never heard it, they would still never accept Christ. The ones that God knows will belong to Him, will all come to Him - none will be rejected, as if to catch God by surprise. And Peter then gives these chosen ones the assurance in verses 4 & 5: those who are Christ's, have an incorruptible inheritance reserved in Heaven & while we're still on Earth, we will be kept secure in our salvation by "the power of God through faith" when salvation's full work is completed "in the last time (the day when we see Jesus & be with Him forever)".

    So, those who are truly God's children (born again by His Spirit), will lead careful holy lives (see the rest of that chapter on this) - we can't, nay, can never fool around with God by leading double lives. It only proves we never belonged to God. Many believe in God, even as the devils do & tremble ( James 2:19), but that belief won't save them.
  • Henry - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Stacie First God made us with freedom of will so no it's not that you don't have

    A choice it's that God being all knowing knows who will not believe. That may

    Sound like a fine line but again he gave us freedom of will. When your born again

    You have his gift of holy spirit but it's up to you to do his will to work the gift by

    His help. Again you operate not controlled!



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