When you say "Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.
I wouldn't put it that way by no means.
Here's Law.
The fact that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" does not come by the law that doesn't mean the law was abolished.
And Christ death on the cross did not do away with the law.
The law condemned man because no one was able to keep the law so all mankind was under the penalty of death.
Christ took on the penalty and "PAYED THE PRICE". by death on the cross.
( Colossians 2:14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;)
The law was the ministration of Death. "And still is"
2 Corinthians 3:7-16.
It was to show us our sin and bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:22-28.
Listen to Paul in Romans 7:7-14.
Also.
Galatians 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
So since you are justified by faith and made righteous by Christ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? No! not if you have been freed from bondage.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13
Romans 6:1-23.
James 2:18.
Jesus came to give you a new Heart. A heart of flesh.
If a person is truly saved he/she would have MORE written on their heart than what's written in the law.
There's things we don't do is sin also. James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
I have often wondered this as well. I worry about members of my family that believe they are saved forever without recourse, even though their lives are not reflecting it daily. I am not necessarily a new Christian, but have only been getting deep in the word the last couple of years, so I am learning so much but still get very confused by verses that may conflict, at least in my understanding of their meaning.
Having been raised Catholic, but truly saved as a young adult in a non-denominational church has caused some of my confusion as well. Through the years I was in and out of church, but always felt my relationship growing in Christ, yet always worried that my salvation wasn't sure. I have prayed many hours and my faith has grown, but now many years later as I'm truly growing as Christian, my faith is sure but I still get stuck in the conflict of verses. I have asked my Christian mentors and friends these questions and get different responses, so ultimately I'm in a circular argument.
Thank you for the original poster, and those who've taken the time to respond with their great verses that direct us to further reading and understanding.
Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."
James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12
"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10
Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"
2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13 KJV
" I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I MYSELF SHOULD CASTAWAY."
Phillipians 3:12-14
"Not as though I had already attained (the prize), either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I MAY APPREHEND that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.Brethren, I COUNT NOT myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. I PRESS TOWARD THE MARK FOR THE PRIZE of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."
Ephesians 5:3-6
"But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.For this ye know, that no whoremonger, NOR UNCLEAN PERSON, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, HATH ANY INHERITANCE in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
Ezekiel 17:24
"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, AND IN HIS SIN THAT HE HATH SINNED, IN THEM SHALL HE DIE."
Matthew 25:1-12. The parable of the 10 virgins.
Matthew 25:14-30. The parable of the servants who were given the talents.
We often look at salvation as we having to "GET" saved which sometimes can be looked at as something you done or played a roll in. So that may not be a great way to look at it. Because some believe you can reverse that and somehow get unsaved.
But if we truly put our trust in the life giver (Jesus) who is the author and "FINISHER" of our faith we should understand salvation is by grace and you can't work to get it and you can't work to keep it.
Ephesians 2:8-10.. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
FOR WE ARE HIS WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
We've been given Christ spirit which seals and sanctifies us.
Are we perfect? No. So how can you loose something by being imperfect and gain it back by being imperfect.
It boils down to who are we trusting? Our imperfect walk with no redeeming qualities? Or him who says I will NEVER leave or forsake you?
SANCTIFICATION;
Salvation is secured once you "truly" receive Christ by trusting in him. That trust/faith in Christ will reflect in a believers life.
[21]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Death of Christ was not in vain.
Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.
When you say "Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.
I wouldn't put it that way by no means.
Here's Law.
The fact that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" does not come by the law that doesn't mean the law was abolished.
And Christ death on the cross did not do away with the law.
The law condemned man because no one was able to keep the law so all mankind was under the penalty of death.
Christ took on the penalty and "PAYED THE PRICE". by death on the cross.
( Colossians 2:14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;)
The law was the ministration of Death. "And still is"
2 Corinthians 3:7-16.
It was to show us our sin and bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:22-28.
Listen to Paul in Romans 7:7-14.
Also.
Galatians 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
So since you are justified by faith and made righteous by Christ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? No! not if you have been freed from bondage.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13
Romans 6:1-23.
James 2:18.
Jesus came to give you a new Heart. A heart of flesh.
If a person is truly saved he/she would have MORE written on their heart than what's written in the law.
There's things we don't do is sin also. James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
God bless.
Having been raised Catholic, but truly saved as a young adult in a non-denominational church has caused some of my confusion as well. Through the years I was in and out of church, but always felt my relationship growing in Christ, yet always worried that my salvation wasn't sure. I have prayed many hours and my faith has grown, but now many years later as I'm truly growing as Christian, my faith is sure but I still get stuck in the conflict of verses. I have asked my Christian mentors and friends these questions and get different responses, so ultimately I'm in a circular argument.
Thank you for the original poster, and those who've taken the time to respond with their great verses that direct us to further reading and understanding.
Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."
James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12
"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10
Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"
2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13 KJV
1 Corinthians 9:26-27
" I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I MYSELF SHOULD CASTAWAY."
Phillipians 3:12-14
"Not as though I had already attained (the prize), either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I MAY APPREHEND that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.Brethren, I COUNT NOT myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. I PRESS TOWARD THE MARK FOR THE PRIZE of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."
Ephesians 5:3-6
"But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.For this ye know, that no whoremonger, NOR UNCLEAN PERSON, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, HATH ANY INHERITANCE in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
Ezekiel 17:24
"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, AND IN HIS SIN THAT HE HATH SINNED, IN THEM SHALL HE DIE."
Matthew 25:1-12. The parable of the 10 virgins.
Matthew 25:14-30. The parable of the servants who were given the talents.
And so many other verses...
We often look at salvation as we having to "GET" saved which sometimes can be looked at as something you done or played a roll in. So that may not be a great way to look at it. Because some believe you can reverse that and somehow get unsaved.
But if we truly put our trust in the life giver (Jesus) who is the author and "FINISHER" of our faith we should understand salvation is by grace and you can't work to get it and you can't work to keep it.
Ephesians 2:8-10.. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
FOR WE ARE HIS WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
We've been given Christ spirit which seals and sanctifies us.
Are we perfect? No. So how can you loose something by being imperfect and gain it back by being imperfect.
It boils down to who are we trusting? Our imperfect walk with no redeeming qualities? Or him who says I will NEVER leave or forsake you?
SANCTIFICATION;
Salvation is secured once you "truly" receive Christ by trusting in him. That trust/faith in Christ will reflect in a believers life.
Saving faith exhibits works.
God bless
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