Bible Discussion Thread

Richard H, IMO, I believe that Elijah and Enoch will be the two witnesses in Jerusalem. After all, they would be the only two men in history that did not die (aside from the ones who were taken to Heaven by Jesus upon his return) but they will die at the hands of the Beast's Israeli servants. Moses died and amazingly enough, he may have even wrote that before he did as he is the purported author of the Pentateuch.

Many believe the 2 witnesses will be Moses and Elijah, which represent both the law (Moses) and the the prophets (Elijah). This perception is based on the fact that both were seen with Christ in the gospels by Peter on the Mount of Transfiguration where Peter asks Christ if he should build 3 tabernacles, 1 for Moses, 1 for Elijah and 1 for Christ.

I meant to say their ascension CAN'T be replicated although it could somehow be fabricated....

As with anything else; Hebrews 9:27 makes a plausible argument; but it isn't worth quibbling about. The nature of the unique ministry is quite remarkable; as there will clearly and at long last be an undeniable "signs and wonders" ministry that will dwarf anything seen before. This will; of course involve a prophetic contest between the truth and a lie; with fire coming down; a mark or seal; and a Resurrection being mimicked by the Beast immediately after these witnesses have completed their misistry (although their ascension can be replicated).

I tend to emphasize the same concept as Christ preaching to the spirits of disobedience in hades. This is; along with likely the 144,000 primarily if not exclusively a DECLARATORY message of judgment rather than the Gospel as it stands today; since by the sixth seal ALL of mankind will know about God and Christ as well as the beginning of judgment. I would say this probably can be defined as the completion of the "Gospel of the Kingdom" ( Mark 1:14-15). The Gospel was said not to be given to all the cities of Israel before Messiah returns ( Matthew 24:14). There are certain verses about preaching to kings and having the Holy Spirit give the words which seem to be dual prophecies for the Apostles as well as the end time saints; as much of the generation that is described that will not pass until all these things come to pass seems to be describing later on in verse 34 of the same chapter.

It does seem that there is a lag time between the Rapture and the appearance of the 2 witnesses. Since certain judgments on the earth are held back before the 144,000 and likely the 2 witnesses coinciding with that time frame; it would seem that time is needed (they say 6 months or so) for the Temple to be constructed and for most of the seal judgments to transpire first.

That in my mind would also all ow the so called " Psalm 83" war to take out Israel's surrounding nations and their threats to come first before Ezekiel 38.

Brother Luke:

Enoch and Elijah are not the only two people in history that did not die but were translated into the presence of God. Anyone from the time of pentecost until the present that have been born again of the word of God, through the works of the cross, have not seen death. The two witnesses to this truth is Mosses and the prophets.

John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me (truth and life) SHALL NEVER DIE .....

Titus 1:2 In hope of ETERNAL LIFE, which God , that cannot lie, promised (witnessed by Mosses and the prophets) before the world began;