Bible Discussion Thread

11 "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end."

Does this just apply to the "Jews" or to any "believer"??

I always found comfort in this verse, but maybe it doesn't apply to me. :(

I thank God and his son Christ Jesus for this KJV Forum....i don't think there is another forum in all the world like this one....God put this forum here for a reason that all the world might hear of this NEW Covenant in Jesus blood...If i had Milllions of Dollars i wd donate it to this forum....Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world....This Forum was put here for a reason... Malachi 4:5..Behold i send you Elijah the Prophet b/f that great and terrible day of the Lord...That shall turn the hearts of the Fathers to the Children and the hearts of the Children to their Father...Lest i come and smite the earth with a curse...Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...

Isaiah 11...Tells us about a knowledge that is gonna cover this earth as the waters cover the seas...In Isaiah 11:9....This Knowledge is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of Christ in us....Thats y Jesus was so solid on knowing us....He has to know us thats when the good seed is sown in our hearts...The words of that New Covenant are the good seeds....Thats y Jesus said the good seed are the words of God...impling Gods New Covenant...Thats y he has to know us....And this knowledge an (intimacy) that is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas....Thats y Jeremiah saw all the world in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6....We are all gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G. that spirit of truth...Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of man....Mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God... Romans 7:4 which is the HG. That Child of PROMISE...

.....Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me.... Rev 12 :5 She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations...The Child is Spirit the H.G. ...the multiplication of Christ...That was the great Promise that Christ Jesus wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y we refer to the H.G as the Child of Promise...he is the multiplication of Christ Jesus via his seed his breathe his words that are spirit and life....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....Plz note the kingdom of God does not come till the woman the world births the Manchild the H.G that Child of Promise REV.12:10...OK Lemme go....let me just add this 27 times in the O.T. the Prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains...ok...The world the woman is gonna be saved in child birth....The CHILD being the H.G.

Dgjot...Salvation is for everybody...God so loved the world that he gave his only son...That whosoever believeth in him will neva perish....By 1 spirit are we ALL baptised into the body of Christ whether we be Jew or Gentile bond or free male or female...God is no respector of persons, He is gonna apply the blood of Christ to every person that ever lived....Jesus is gonna see thats its accomplished.

.....Jesus said if i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...By his Blood ..Its Jesus that is gonna draw all men unto himself....Thats y Hebrews...is saying I was found of them that SOUGHT ME NOT ( the world ) I was made manifest unto them that ASKED NOT after me ( the world ) HUMANITY.....ALL NATIONS....The manchild which is the H.G. IS GONA RULE ALL NATIONS.

...God so loved the WORLD..Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the WORLD ...When Jesus fed the multitudes he didn't cull not 1 person...He fed them ALL with a Childs lunch...Which is Prophetic of the Manchild the H.G. that is gona rule all nations...And feed all of us with that manna from heaven...The living Word...That new COVENANT which is ALL INCLUSIVE... Jeremiah 31:34...I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest.

.....But every sinner will have to go thru that lake of fire which his baptism of the H.G. and fire...There has to be judgement ....As our God is a Consuming Fire....Its only the devil and his angels that are gonna be Consumed by this lake of fire...And our old Demonic Adamic Nature that is in rank with Satan...ok lemme go GBU

Ddjot,

Chris gave a good answer, I'd like to add to the discussion. Please note the verse right before, Jeremiah 29:11, Jeremiah 29:10, sometimes we want GOD to change our situations "right now", sometimes HE does, but I believe this promise, is for GOD's people when we need the encouragement for the troubled times & endurance in longer seasons. Notice in Daniel, he & his companions had went through many difficult moments but GOD in miraculous ways delivered them, protected them & even encouraged them. I believe it was after Daniel was thrown in the lions den that he fasted & humbly prayed about the promise made in Jeremiah 29:10,11, Daniel 9:1,2,3, still waiting on that promise of 70 years,

note Daniel 6:1,2,3, (for why I place the timing, seemingly after lions den) the noted scriptures referring to about Daniel's encouragement, & companions, some say "the greater the trial the greater the miraculous": Daniel 1:8,9,17, Daniel 2:12,13,17,23 Daniel 3:12-27, Daniel 4:19,24,25, Daniel 5, Daniel 6:7,10,16,22,28, Daniel 9:23, Daniel 10:11,12,18, Daniel 11:1,

Luke 10:19, there are moments that are painful but when we look at Salvation, the pruning, witness to strengthen the Body of Believers, then we realize it didn't "hurt us".

I hope these scriptures give you strength & hope= 1Peter 4:12,13, 2Corinthians 1:3-7, John 15:1-2, 1Corinthians 4:5, 2Corinthians 3:2, Zechariah 13:9, Malachi 3:3, 2Timothy 2:10, Psalms 30:5,

In correction= Isaiah 48:10,11, Malachi 3:2, Proverbs 3:11-35, Hebrews 12:7, 2Thessalonians 1:4,

Endure even undue trials= 2Timothy 2:3, 2Timothy 4:5, remember Timothy was with Paul in ministry during persecution. 1Peter 2:19, Mark 13:13, James 5:10,11,

James 5:13-18, 2Chronicles 7:14,

Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging

That's a good question Dgjot, as sometimes we can misapply Scriptures when they speak to people in various cultures, times & situations. To answer your question, I believe that Jeremiah 29:11 does apply to the one in Christ as well.

My reasoning on this is: whenever God the Father or His Son speak to 'people' through His Word, I always ask, 'who are They speaking to, what is the matter about, and what is the relevance to any other people or ourselves?'

Briefly, when matters relate specifically to Israel (e.g. the Law, the Sacrifices, to go & conquer lands or enemies, prophecies concerning them/judgements/punishments, etc.), then I read those verses as given to them, but for my knowledge & learning about the Person of the Godhead. But if verses are directed to Israel (such as the one you quoted), do we see the Character of God & His expressions of love, concern, guidance, & help to both Israel (the elect of God) & in the believer in Christ (having the faith needed to be God's elect: Titus 1:1)?

Israel, having received that special love of God & His intervention in their lives in so many ways, ought to have been shining beacons to the uncivilized idolatrous world, but they chose to spurn God's Love & to reject His Christ, thereby losing their position before God. Why? Because the righteousness in the Law was not sought by faith ( Romans 9:30-32). Had they believed God & sought Him out in real love & faith, the Truth of Jeremiah 29:11-14 would have been their ongoing experience. But as Israel was cut out of the olive tree ( Romans 11), that we who have come to God IN FAITH might be engrafted into it, the promise in Jeremiah & all the promises in the Bible as pertaining to God's people (Jew & Gentile) in whom He delights, must also be applicable to us.

So, you can take much comfort in that verse & all verses that give you God's Promises: His Seal is within you, His Love is upon you & His Arms surround you and nothing can separate you from that love.

@Chris: Thank You so much. That's a great comfort.