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  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Hi Moses.

    You asked "Does this mean everyone in Heaven will be tempted one last time and maybe even loose our salvation?" This won't be in heaven, it will be here on earth after the tribulation.

    The Church will be raptured up before the tribulation.

    You have this account here in Revelation 20:7-8 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    AND SHALL GO OUT TO DECEIVE "THE NATIONS WHICH ARE IN THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH, " Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    ( The Church is a people called out of the nations.)

    Therefore we are not identified as "THE NATIONS "

    1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

    I believe the Millennium is a final test/temptation on the "HEART" of Man. Under a 1000 years of perfect conditions and governing when given the chance man turns his back on God again.

    The heart is deceitful above all things, and Incurably wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9.

    This is not the Church, we're given a new heart.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Midian.

    That's interesting. Esau is a type of fleshly man and so is Jacob sometimes when used in scripture.

    But Esau cared not for the birth rights. Jacob wanted it but he had to learn to trust God. When he did he was later named Israel.

    ( The birthright wasn't given by merit.)

    This seems to paint a picture of the wickedness of the ungenerated heart of man. Man has no faith or desire for God apart from the spirit of God. A 1000 years of man being ruled by the Lord with a rod of Iron and when satan is loosed not only do they rebel, they go to war against the Lord. That's not the Church who follow the Lord because they hear his voice!

    John 10:27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    God's spirit in a believer won't lead him to rebel against God.

    Here's 2 verses to consider;

    1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

    ( We've been sealed)

    2 Thessalonians 2:7.

    "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (This is how Satan's deception is made possible )

    By the time you get to Revelation 4 We've been Redeemed.

    God bless.
  • Jezebe - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Are you referring to the heart of the 2nd Man which is of Heaven, not the first Man, correct?

    What is ungenerated heart of man, ive heard of unregenerated but not ungenerated , is this in scripture?

    You didnt answer my question but it's okay, this is cool too.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Jezebe.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    Yes I meant unregenerated heart.

    God bless.
  • Midian - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This doesn't make sense seeing how Ezekiel 38 is the invasion and the purpose of the invasion the battle of Gog and Magog which is the war that still wages on between the two brothers Jacob and Esau and is settled by God just before the millennium begins yet after The Gathering Ezekiel 39:25

    Its the End of Days according to Ezekiel 38:16 where it states it will be the latter Days which means end of days, the millennium is for The Restoration between the them since the two sticks of Judah and Israel were already rejoined back in chapter 37.

    The use of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20:8 is apparently an inclusive term for all the Gentile nations; East (Gog) and West (Magog) all over the world and is being referenced here as to how many there is that will still go against the Lord during the millennium; the number of whom is as the sand of the sea: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (To gather them together to do battle against the Lord God)
  • Jezebe - In Reply - 2 years ago
    How does it work exactly ? the rapture before the tribulation from what Ive gathered many people say this happens before the antichrist appears

    Can you point to this in scripture?

    Is the Apostle Paul The Church ?



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