Dickens you do greatly err...The Father and the son are 1 only in the Spiritline...The Father neva died, It was only the son that died so they are clearly 2 distinct beings...But the Son and the Father are 1 only in their relationship as Father and Son...Even in the natural we are 1 with our Fathers....We carry our Father's last name simply b/c we are 1 bloodine....Jesus carried the same spirit/Bloodline as his father...Remember the Father neva died....As Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit...So Spirits can be born in us and are individual and have different names but they are all Sons of God...Thats y the bible speaks of an Israel of God which are spirits that are gonna be born in us...And are gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitudes....The very fact that God refers to himself as Father is indicative of multiplication of his spirit.... Joel 2:28 says that God is gona pour out of his spirit on all flesh...Thus everybody is gona get a Seed which is the LIVING WORD a measure of faith...The Father is only greater b/c he is the FATHER OF SPIRITS...The H.G. plural Spirits are the Gifts of God...They are all 3 related as FATHER SON AND GRANSON...Just like ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB WERE FATHER SON AND GRANSON...That were mutiplied as the sands of the seas...God wd NOT have told Moses that his Name was Abraham Issac and Jacob if the Godhead was not a Trinity...God tells Moses that is my Name and my memorial forever to all Generations..Thus there has to be an Israel OF God.
.....In Isaiah 11:1 Which was approx. 250 yrs after Jesse David and Solomon had all died...Isaiah is using these 3 men as symbolic of a kingdom coming in the last days... Isaiah 11:11 is saying that this Jesse David and Solomon is coming again a 2 nd time which is symbolic of the Father Son and H.G. Which is Father Son and Granson...Thats y Jesus is saying he is the root and the offspring of DAVID...Impling the Davidic Kingdom was a type of the heavenly Kingdom..Father Son and Granson.
The "Us" is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The Word is Jesus. See John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Also the Lord Jesus said "I and the Father are one." John 10:30
Holy Spirit is God 1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Dan, I beg to differ, there is only one God but the forms He appears to men determine who He is, we have to understand who God is so that the trinity mindset in us to vanish. In John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the WORD was God. This very word that was God, was made flesh and dwelt among us( John 1:14). Isaiah 7:14 prophesies of Emmanuel meaning God with us. When you read in John 14:6-9 Philip desires to know the father, and what reply does Jesus Christ give? Have i been so long with you and yet you do not know the father? In verse 17 of the John 14 Jesus Christ again who is the Father shows that He shall send them the Holy Spirit whom the world knows not BUT THEY KNOW HIM FOR HE DWELLS WITH THEM BUT SHALL BE IN THEM!! Notice the spirit, the son the father is Jesus Christ?
Us implies multiple. There were multiple people present. Let us make man in our image. Man is made in the image of God. Our image meaning the image of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost. Take up your petition with the author of the bible.
Dickens, in your comment you wrote you beg to differ, but then appeared to repeat mostly the same belief as Dan. What exactly do you believe you are differing with?
.....In Isaiah 11:1 Which was approx. 250 yrs after Jesse David and Solomon had all died...Isaiah is using these 3 men as symbolic of a kingdom coming in the last days... Isaiah 11:11 is saying that this Jesse David and Solomon is coming again a 2 nd time which is symbolic of the Father Son and H.G. Which is Father Son and Granson...Thats y Jesus is saying he is the root and the offspring of DAVID...Impling the Davidic Kingdom was a type of the heavenly Kingdom..Father Son and Granson.
I do this at work a lot with my crew mates
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The Word is Jesus. See John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Also the Lord Jesus said "I and the Father are one." John 10:30
Holy Spirit is God 1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
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