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Please pray that GOD, The Father (Jehovah, I AM), will please tell me, Himself before dawn, whether or not if I commit suicide, if I will go to Hell or not. This is urgent. Thank you.
Also, that He will mercifully answer my other questions Himself, tonight as well (as He did for David when he had the ephod in I Samuel 23:. 9-12, as written below)
"9 And David knew that Saul secretly practised mischief against him. and he said to Abiathar the priest, Bring hither the ephod.
10 Then said David, O Lord God of Israel, thy servant hath certainly heard that Saul seeketh to come to Keilah, to destroy the city for my sake.
11 Will the men of Keilah deliver me up into his hand? will Saul come down, as thy servant hath heard? O Lord God of Israel, I beseech thee, tell thy servant. And the Lord said, He will come down.
12 Then said David, Will the men of Keilah deliver me and my men into the hand of Saul? And the Lord said, They will deliver thee up."
"God hath delivered me to the ungodly, and turned me over into the hands of the wicked," and NOT "for a season," but instead, GOD formed me in the WOMB of her that HATEH me, by THE SEED of him that, TOO, as with her--hateth me without a cause! And as if them making me "weary of my life," HAD...NOT...BEEN good enough--How the LORD willed that the Devil's seed have may kin! With the power of God, weilded by the unrighteous bodies of men, with the spirit of the Devil, and the familiar spirits both outside and in--YET--my PRAYERS had been, to the OPPOSITE of THIS! Yet increase the LORD their arrows, and His eye is on the sparrows, but though He watcheth me, His strength and will, is with the enemy! As Job was mailed, by the hand of God...though willed by Satan, so too do the Devil and his crew--under then the sn (as said by he it, Solomon--is their not one thing new. As wickedness was done in the past, so to do they tat. The only difference being, is that no one believes--save GOD...my enemies...and wearied and beleaguered, me!
I see your request was "before dawn " I hope you've made it into another evening.
1st I pray you will never be tempted to hurt, harm or destroy yourself ever. You are created by GOD ALMIGHTY in HIS image. Psalms 139, in Psalms 139:14, it says fearfully & wonderfully made, fearfully meaning; apprehension something bad will happen. Amazingly GOD knew & knows with each of us, we have the potential to do & choose bad._.._however HE created with mercy & calles us "wonderful" keep reading & amazingly we see Psalms 139:17 GOD's thoughts are " precious" towards us, they number more than sand, HIS precious thoughts for & towards us. & like David who wrote Psalms 139:18, we are still with thee, if & when we awake. Difficulties can seem impossible, even people of the Bible went through despairing of life itself, yet everyone that chose life over death, had a better end. In this earth & in the End. Revelation 11:18,
Jesus = Matthew 26:38-42, Luke 24:34,
Jacob aka Israel = Genesis 37:35, Genesis 45:27,
Elijah = 1Kings 19:4, 2Kings 2:11,
Not good; Judas= Matthew 27:4-8, 2Samuel 17:23,
Choose life, that you might live Deuteronomy 30:19,
In continuing response obviously besetting sins need to be dealt with as they give the enemy a foothold. Whatever happens Satan is defeated and the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church. Your soul if truly saved is sealed with the Holy Spirit until the Day of Redemption (i.e. Rapture or Resurrection). Those who oppose us are likely controlled by the enemy who as I stated previously is the controlling mechanism of the unregenerate in this world.
We should also understand that "dying to self" is different than self destruction. He conforms us to His image and we need to realize that even in our transgressions He is chastising us and teaching us valuable lessons.
I would also say from experience that you should not stop taking any medications prescribed without working with doctors in a phased out approach. This puts you at greater risk; as I have learned from personal experience. I will also pray that God brings you counsel and for you to have the wisdom to take up what He has given you. This happened for me when I went through the betrayal of a cheating wife and divorce with Christian counseling and even random strangers that helped me through things when for a few weeks I had to stay with a friend and had no place of my own to crash. There are many others who God can use in your life to counsel you and also the Lord can strengthen you in helping someday to disciple others.
That's about all for now I will pray for you the next couple of days.
I have asked God for wisdom here on this subject. 2 Kings 6:16-19 shows how Elisha in the spiritual realm had more fighting for his side than in the visible human spectrum.
First; in regard to Saul. He had already committed an egregious sin in attempting to do a sacrifice which is only something a Priest to do. He had because of his jealousy of David attempted 21 times to kill him even though it should have been clear that he was the chosen one to someday be King of Israel. At the end he consulted a witch; something which was worthy of death in the O.T. law to enquire about an upcoming battle; and even in the end he was more concerned about his reputation when he asked to die with his serious injuries. It is because of his unrepentant jealousy of David and murderous spirit that demons were tormenting him. He was also ungracious because David repeatedly showed him mercy when he could have wiped him out.
We can also examine someone like Samson who; because he sacrificed himself was able to destroy multitudes of Baal worshippers; again his own sins got him into that position in the first place.
Clearly; the enemy of our souls tries to plant suicide in our minds. We only need to look at Christ's temptations throughout scripture; particularly when Satan told him to cast himself off the temple using scripture to back it up; and Christ retorted that we are not to test God. I cannot say that suicide is the unforgiveable sin; but at the very least eternal rewards will be lost for anyone who doesn't continue until the end of this earthly existence to walk in faith. As to my previous point; it would appear from the Book of Revelation that the accuser of our souls may not be cast down to earth until the midpoint of the Tribulation. It is certainly possible that those who are living in heaven are accused then; because afterwards the Antichrist or Beast curses those who LIVE IN HEAVEN. In either case He sustains us and has won the war despite current battles
Continuing from my earlier reply, the giant of despair counseled the Christians to commit suicide, but God says to live. The Lord has a purpose for every life, and He does not allow pain without purpose.
God loves you, Ayen. In a book called the Pilgrim's Progress, when the giant of despair captured Christian and his friend Hopeful, they talked:
"Chr. "Brother," said CHRISTIAN, "what shall we do? the life that we now live is miserable: for my part I know not whether is best--to live thus, or to die out of hand. 'My soul chooses strangling rather than life';
"So that my soul chooseth strangling, and death rather than my life." Job 7:15
and the grave is more easy for me than this dungeon. Shall we be ruled by the Giant?"
Hope says no
Hope: "'Indeed our present condition is dreadful, and death would be far more welcome to me than thus for ever to abide; but yet let us consider, the Lord of the country to which we are going hath said, "Thou shalt do no murder," no, not to another man's person. Much more, then, are we forbidden to take his counsel to kill ourselves.'" It is murder to kill oneself, and as stated in 1 John 3:15 "no murderer has eternal life"
God cares for you and is able to deliver you from your affliction.
Matthew 5:4 "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted"
Thank you, Sir or Madam, this is what I'd assumed most if not all of my adult life too. Thank you very kindly for taking the time to post. It truly DOES help (obviously), because I do not want to go to Hell (obviously). Thank you, again!
It is true that in this world some people have an easy life and others a rough life.
Apostle Paul himself was an example of a person who was going to have a brilliant and much promised life and carreer which turned around and became a very hard life. He had so many qualifications that probably in his face others were seeing a future leader for their political-religious establishment. But after he believed in Jesus all that went away. And what was left?
1 Cor 4:11-13
Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."
2 Cor 12:10
"Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong (why?)"
2 Cor 6:4-5
"But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings"
2 Cor 4:7-12
"But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.So then death worketh in us, but life in you."
So Paul rejected an excellent future for Jesus' sake. Why? Was he a masochist? No, but he was having in his mind another life, in another place, in Heaven, which lasts for ever.
So keep going, don't quit, walk Jesus' way no matter what, all that will end sometime, sooner or later.
2 Cor 4:16-18
"For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day (ask God to always renew you). For our light affliction (light affliction Paul? Are you sure?), which is but for a moment (a life is a moment?), worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
Light affliction, a moment,..., that is how Paul was considering things.
And the future which waits for you is:
Rev 21:3-4
"And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."
In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, Lazarus' life was really harsh but he didn't quit, he kept trusting in the Lord till the very end and now is having a happy life in Heaven with God and all the saints there, and this will keep going for ever. It is worth all that trouble, isn't it?
As far as David and the ephod is concerned, God doesn't always answer the same way. He talks in various ways, maybe through the posts here. I am sure he will answer all your questions, but sometimes we have to wait, we are not mature yet to understand some things even if He answered them now, so be patient and wait. He will come to you.
So keep walking dear brother and ask God to strengthen you with His Grace in your way to Heaven. He will do it.
Are you in a church? If not, a very good idea is to join a church, you will find a lot of support there.
Dear Ayen O, God speaks to us through His Word. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to comfort us and guide us through conviction. His answer to your question about going to hell is in John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
How to be sure you are saved:
1. If you confessed your sins and asked God to forgive you, He did. John 6:37 says He will not deny those who come to Him for salvation.
2. Rest assured that Jesus paid for your sins on the cross. In John 19:30 Jesus says, "It is finished." There's nothing else to be done except call upon His name for salvation--if you have done that, you are saved.
3. Assurance comes from that little voice inside us Who guides and convicts us of the way we should walk in Christ--the Holy Spirit is that voice. 1 John 3:24
4. A changed life. When we are saved the Holy Spirit transforms us into a new creature. He shreds away our old self and created a new being, a new heart. That doesn't mean we are perfect, doesn't mean we won't fail or fall into depression. If you had an encounter with Jesus that changed your life, you are saved. 1 John 2:3 says, we know we are saved if we keep his commandments.
If after prayer and being absolutely convinced that you are lost and therefore bound for hell, please know this:
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.
I just prayed and confessed the LORD Jesus' name again. I had gotten hope for a few minutes prior, but then when I realized that y situation has not changed for the better. I became very sad again. The hope deferred verse somewhere is similar to howI feel, but I feel worse, because every hope,the LORD has allowed enemies to take. GOD has not willed me to have yet, in as long as I've been on this earth to be able to hide my attempts to get out from under my abusers. Therefore they just destroy all those in ways I am unable to convince GOD to will otherwise.
Thank you all for taken the time to pray for me. It isn't an emotion, temporary thing, this has been my whole life. It has never done anything but worsen. It will never be any better. The only way I have out is through death. The LORD has willed miracles, but He also has willed the neverending will of my enemies to destroy all hope.
Don't give up or give in to despair. You can come here anytime day and night and make your needs known to us. There will always be those of us who will pray for you. Some of us will post back to you, but many more are praying for you.
The Lord is with you every moment. You can call on Him in every time of need. Whenever you feel the urge to end your life, pray to the Lord. Read His Word, asking Him to speak to you through it.
Also, in these moments, instead of giving into this urge, come here and post so we can pray for you that you may be strengthened by our prayers.
Ayen, it sounds like you have endured a great deal of pain and distress in your lie. I am sorry that your life experience has been so difficult. God knows, He sees. He hears your cries. And He acts on your behalf even if you don't realize that He does.
Ayen, Keep strong in your faith in Jesus. Trust that He will help you. Lean on Him. He is your strength and shield, your deliverer and help in times of trouble. He will not fail you, leave you, nor forsake you. Stay alive, Ayen, for that is God's will for you.
Please respond back to us today and also often. We are glad to have you with us on this site. We really do care for you and will continue to lift you up in prayer. Check in with us, please. God's blessing be upon you today and always.
I had been writing a prayer request elsewhere, but then, I became afraid to post the one right before the one that I willpist here now. I became afraid all of a sudden, in an instant, and had a warning that GOD may give me the very thing I've been requesting, and that the LORD may answer it in a way I regret.
I believe someone had prayed FOR THAT/GOD may have been moved to command a heavenly angel or the Holy Spirit to put a fear in me. Because I had no fear until that instant to request death as the prophet Elijah did.
I do not have any reason to hope, unless GOD will bless me, because I have tried and prayed and used to fast, and nothing--fordecades has ever moved The LORD GOD to deliver me from my abusers. I believe He may do and does protect,but I have never been free of their hateful stalking. I can go nowhere that GOD will not they be allowed to follow, or reach into their Network to have me so followed. I do not expect to be believed, and I am sad, because I cannot do anything that GODwil not allow them to stop (other than being my own failure to pass). I am now sad again
I have been praying for you through the night and through this morning. I am so glad to hear from you. Stay the course of faith in God despite your circumstances. Understanding that you are homeless, I can see that it may be hard to get away from people who are abusing you. Have you gone to a church and explained your situation? Perhaps there is a church near you who will see to it that you are separated from these abusers. They may supply funds for you to move far away and connect you with another church in this new area to help you once you get there.
Keep checking in with us Ayen. We all want you to continue to live, but we also want you to be rescued from your abusers. God is able to do this. I pray that you will hear the direction God wants you to employ for this to occur and that He will strengthen your faith to do what He asks of you.
Thank you VERY KINDLY, and GOD BLESS YOU!!! I prayed earlier, GOD would bless me to not be stopped or attacked again today by Satan's seed who masquerade as wolves in sheep's clothing, and that GOD would just bless me to succeed in my pursuits all day today, and henceforth. The last time I tried, the attack lead me to desire death. NOT because this is a "season," but rather this has been the ONLY thing that I have known for so long--attacks to bring about my failure and other, RELENTLESS sabotage, done to allow my abuse to continue.
Far better! I know that PRAYERS FOR ME, by others, have moved by the LORD, because of how I've felt, having renewed desire. I also have seen that Satan wants otherwise, because as soon as I am uplifted by one of the brethren--like reading your words, or chatting with another prayer on a telephone prayer line, then I encounter Satan's...or vice versa. I HONESTLY do not know WHY...the continued pursuit of my destruction. Why so mayare o willing to help destroy a stranger, and with NO COMPUNCTION. But I guess it is because their prosperity comes from the Devil, and they are prosperous due to their Network. My parents began this. They are not normal. I mean nothing disrespectful towardthem, but they have McLean spiritual "help...". And the spirit that is in them and others in their Network is a shirt that takes blind pleasure in hurting others without a cause. My parents are the ones that don't want to EVER lose abusive control over me..but they have a network of evil, and truth be told at least one of those people is on this same page with the many beautiful people on here.
I say this ONLY to let the brethren be FULLY AWARE that we STILL have wolves in sheep's clothing--not merely brethren that are struggling with discernment in Biblical matters, but out right predators that disguise themselves as brothers and sisters in Christ! I speak in TRUTH!
I thank you ALL--the TRUE brethren for tlthe taking if YOUR TIME to bless, to love, and to help one of your lesser, and weaker siblings in Christ! You, and others have lifted me up! I feel strength, for now, to speak in boldly!
At least ONE of the prayers on here, even before I read their message, my spirit saw the email alert of a new essage, and I was made to believe that--before reading a THING..that it was one of Satan's. Once I read..that was what I took away from it as well.
I will NOT EVER stir up anyone against anyone else, but as brothers and sisters, we MUST be EVER VIGILANT for ourselves--not just t
I am glad to hear from you today and to hear that you are uplifted through the work of God in you. We continue to pray for you because we know that God will answer in the best way for you today. As a mother, I pray for my three sons daily since they are prodigals and I so desire for them to turn back to the Lord. But in your case, you are turned to God and that is so wonderful! May God continue to comfort you and ease your suffering, distress, and provide for your needs today. Since you are in Christ Jesus, you will be safe from Satan's attacks. God protects those who are His own children. He is a good Father and hears you when you call upon Him. So, do so every time you feel that Satan is trying to get at you. Rebuke Satan and resist him always. The Word promises that he will flee from you. Believe this. Ayen. I really hope that you are able to get into a safe dwelling place soon. Keep checking back on here. WE are happy that you continue to do so.
I am a bit unclear as to who your abusers are. Can you elaborate please. I want to be able to pray for you in the best way.
I know that God wants you to live, or else He would have taken you in death by now, and this death would not be at your own hand. He alone is the one who decides life and death for anyone. so, taking your own life is never God's will.
I pray today for you.
Dear Heavenly Father, we again lift up Ayen before You in the name of Jesus and ask that You protect her from any abuse and remove those who wish to abuse her. We pray that You will give her a calm and peaceful spirit and a soundness of mind to approach her painful and difficult circumstances with wisdom, faith, and strength that comes from Your Spirit within her. We ask that You will bring her to a safe place to live and will connect her with those who can truly help her with shelter and daily necessities as well as spiritual guidance and fellowship. We ask that You replace in her the thoughts and urges to harm herself with remembrances of Your goodness, grace, salvation, unfailing love, and power to win every battle in any believer's life. You are able to shield her and overcome those who wish her harm. We trust You to do these things because You can only be Who You are, which is our Savior, Lord of all, and Sovereign of all creation. You can only do good and are able to defeat all evil. We thank you for loving and saving Ayen and bless You for being all that she needs to be freed from this situation. Free her today. Amen.
Pray in Jesus' name. Today, through faith, God will help you if you humble yourselve and call on Him. He loves you. Trust in His Word. Suicide indicates no trust or faith in God. Pray a sincere prayer from the heart and wait on the Lord!
Thank you, Sir or Madam, for your suggestion. I had thought maybe I needed to come into the LORD more humbly--wiyh more clear deference, right before reading your post, but for some reason, though, I became offended (I think just spiritual warfare, and could be a temporary change in my internal workings, due to the time of women being upon me, or just the last straw that caused me to come here and the stress fro it,but I assume it was a spiritual warfare thing. Either way, thank you and I will pray as your instructions suggest, again!
Dear God the Father in Heaven, You who have all power in heaven and on earth. You who have breathed life into all of us. And you see Us the way we are. You know of all the distress we have in our hearts. So You can sort this out for Ayen O. Thank my God that You are comforting, You are truthful, You are joy and You are at peace. Stand close to the word and believe it if it is the last thing you do in the holy name of Jesus Christ we pray. He comes with healing and will save you into His kingdom. Hi loves you, and we loves you dear. Galatians 4
You are not alone when consumed with these thoughts it is lies from our enemy. LORD help Ayen to understand you are enough because you are everything we need, and this world is not our desire just reach out and put your hand in Jesus' hand.
This life is not ours to take, and Jesus did not come to earth and die for us so we could live a defeated life. Find someone, many understand and have walked this road before. Regardless of how dark it may seem now darkness is defined by the absence of light and life is light do not put it out.
Eternal God hear my cries right now for this loved one. You are loved Ayen. I cry out to You LORD with all my heart to touch Ayen to give him hope that he will keep going and show him he is not alone.
I am so glad you have reached out on this site. There are many people praying for you. We want you to live and so does the Lord Jesus. Derek and Chris have advised you well. I pray that God will comfort your heart, bring you peace, and a desire to live to tell of His great work in You as you resist the urge to end your life and instead, obey Him and trust Him to help you. I pray that you will continue to pray through this time and, if possible seek to spend the rest of the night and tomorrow with someone else. Keep company with another until you have overcome this urge to die. The Lord is more than able to bring about a life affirming resolve to your situation. I pray that God will strengthen you to preserve your life for His sake. I pray that God will show you how He loves You so much and desires to keep You in His loving care in this life. Please, Lord God, intervene in Ayen's life right now. Amen.
Hello Ayen. I am so sorry to read your post & know that the circumstances you're in must be awful for you to write what you did. Please, please Ayen, as Derek has also written, don't do anything rashly, based on circumstances or emotions. You're a child of God (even as you quoted from 1 Samuel when David wanted to hear from the LORD). But could you also read a little further in 1 Samuel 30:1-7 & see another situation that David was in.
The important words I want to bring to you, even as I have been praying for you, is in verse 6: even as "David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: BUT DAVID ENCOURAGED HIMSELF IN THE LORD HIS GOD". His wives were captured, his people wanted to stone him, but he took his eyes off his problems & griefs, and looked to the LORD Who had always been faithful to him. YES, David determined in his heart to encourage himself (or, strengthen himself) to look to God & not himself/his pain.
Would you do that dear Ayen? Your pain might be great, BUT God is greater and will carry you through - He wants your faith in Him - He wants you to gaze only on Him. As I prayed, two things came to me: one, a Scripture from 1 Peter 1:6-9, and also, friends from India unbeknown to them just sent me a hymn as a Word of God for you.
In 1 Peter, Peter was encouraging the dispersed believers, that in spite of their many trials in life & faith, what they were going through was "much more precious than of gold" and through it, their faith may be unto the "praise and honour and glory at Christ's appearing". And the 'reward of their faith is the salvation of their souls'.
And the hymn sent to me was, "In the garden". You can read the words on the Web, but the refrain is: "And He walks with me, and He talks with me, And He tells me I am His own, And the joy we share as we tarry there, None other has ever known." God wants you to trust Him fully.
Welcome to the community. I am praying for you at this moment. I'd like to ask why your request is so urgent? Isn't it fair to give yourself a bit more time, because often emotions change.
I considered doing something dramatic when I was down some years ago and now that time has passed I'm so glad I didn't take action on those feelings, because my feelings changed, and my situation changed. Would you like to give yourself more time to talk things through with someone and to be prayed for? At bare minimum can you do yourself a favor and call a hotline 1-800-273-TALK (8255) and speak to someone now? I'll also check back on this thread as I and I'm sure others are happy to communicate with you.
About your question- our bodies are not even ours, but God's temple and its of course a sin to harm the things He creates and loves. Knowing what I know now, I'd never risk such a thing. God will provide your needs if you have a little more patience. I believe you will get through what you are dealing with and when this happens it results in a refreshing change of perspective.
For immediate relief from whatever may be bothering you, you can interrupt the thoughts if you do something kind for someone else tonight, offering support to someone homeless, calling someone you haven't spoken to in a long time, giving someone a gift card unexpectedly, just showing someone else that you care. Everyone is valuable and important when you help lift up someone else. What if one of your friends or acquaintances is going through something similar and hasn't told you or anyone else, would you prefer them to tell you? Maybe that's how others feel about you? Prayer. Also, make sure your physical needs are attended to, like sleep, take a long bath, get a nice workout in, watch a funny movie. These are ideas to calm down temporary emotions. God bless you.
I'm sorry, I tried to type to you, I am homeless. Without getting into to too much detail, Satan's children--GOD will not to stop them. They enjoy hurting me GOD will not stop allowing them to do so. I cannot get anywhere in life, because GOD has allowed the Devil's children todestroy all good I do, or attempt to do or man, and begin to do, just because they will to maintain control over my life. I had gotten hope, it then it left me again. I do not want to be on this planet anymore, because GOD will not stop Satan's bchildren from stopping me fromattemptingto free myself of and from them
Hi Ayen, I am grateful to hear from you. Please hang in there. You got a lot of great responses from Christian brothers and sisters wanting to help. Praying these lift you up.
"And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do." Luke 12:4 KJV
I think it means we don't have to be afraid of others. They don't control us.
Philippians 4:10-13 - Paul was in prison, beaten, had all kinds of hardship, people wanted to kill him, was hungry, he probably dealt with guilt from his past, he walked long distances and stayed in random places regularly. But (verse 11) he said he found the secret of being content. This means our external circumstances don't affect our emotional state of joy in the Lord or contentment as much as people commonly assume.
"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." 1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV
This means to me that God is aware of our circumstance and won't let us be trapped in a situation of sin. We always have a way out.
One way to love and be fair to yourself is by challenging any negative ideas to see if they are based on truth or not. Not all thoughts are true and its ok to gently challenge them.
For example I used to think bad things about myself and the belief crippled me for some years, but I later discovered weren't true. It was liberating and felt free realizing this.
If you were to start this challenge I would start by re-examining statements you said like "I cannot get anywhere in life" or "GOD will not stop Satan's bchildren from stopping me" and ask for each: is that really true? Is there any evidence for this or what is this idea based on? Is it true for others? What if it isn't true? What is the evidence of it not being true?"
Also, that He will mercifully answer my other questions Himself, tonight as well (as He did for David when he had the ephod in I Samuel 23:. 9-12, as written below)
"9 And David knew that Saul secretly practised mischief against him. and he said to Abiathar the priest, Bring hither the ephod.
10 Then said David, O Lord God of Israel, thy servant hath certainly heard that Saul seeketh to come to Keilah, to destroy the city for my sake.
11 Will the men of Keilah deliver me up into his hand? will Saul come down, as thy servant hath heard? O Lord God of Israel, I beseech thee, tell thy servant. And the Lord said, He will come down.
12 Then said David, Will the men of Keilah deliver me and my men into the hand of Saul? And the Lord said, They will deliver thee up."
I see your request was "before dawn " I hope you've made it into another evening.
1st I pray you will never be tempted to hurt, harm or destroy yourself ever. You are created by GOD ALMIGHTY in HIS image. Psalms 139, in Psalms 139:14, it says fearfully & wonderfully made, fearfully meaning; apprehension something bad will happen. Amazingly GOD knew & knows with each of us, we have the potential to do & choose bad._.._however HE created with mercy & calles us "wonderful" keep reading & amazingly we see Psalms 139:17 GOD's thoughts are " precious" towards us, they number more than sand, HIS precious thoughts for & towards us. & like David who wrote Psalms 139:18, we are still with thee, if & when we awake. Difficulties can seem impossible, even people of the Bible went through despairing of life itself, yet everyone that chose life over death, had a better end. In this earth & in the End. Revelation 11:18,
Jesus = Matthew 26:38-42, Luke 24:34,
Jacob aka Israel = Genesis 37:35, Genesis 45:27,
Elijah = 1Kings 19:4, 2Kings 2:11,
Not good; Judas= Matthew 27:4-8, 2Samuel 17:23,
Choose life, that you might live Deuteronomy 30:19,
Hopefully these are helpful
We should also understand that "dying to self" is different than self destruction. He conforms us to His image and we need to realize that even in our transgressions He is chastising us and teaching us valuable lessons.
I would also say from experience that you should not stop taking any medications prescribed without working with doctors in a phased out approach. This puts you at greater risk; as I have learned from personal experience. I will also pray that God brings you counsel and for you to have the wisdom to take up what He has given you. This happened for me when I went through the betrayal of a cheating wife and divorce with Christian counseling and even random strangers that helped me through things when for a few weeks I had to stay with a friend and had no place of my own to crash. There are many others who God can use in your life to counsel you and also the Lord can strengthen you in helping someday to disciple others.
That's about all for now I will pray for you the next couple of days.
Agape; RIch P
First; in regard to Saul. He had already committed an egregious sin in attempting to do a sacrifice which is only something a Priest to do. He had because of his jealousy of David attempted 21 times to kill him even though it should have been clear that he was the chosen one to someday be King of Israel. At the end he consulted a witch; something which was worthy of death in the O.T. law to enquire about an upcoming battle; and even in the end he was more concerned about his reputation when he asked to die with his serious injuries. It is because of his unrepentant jealousy of David and murderous spirit that demons were tormenting him. He was also ungracious because David repeatedly showed him mercy when he could have wiped him out.
We can also examine someone like Samson who; because he sacrificed himself was able to destroy multitudes of Baal worshippers; again his own sins got him into that position in the first place.
Clearly; the enemy of our souls tries to plant suicide in our minds. We only need to look at Christ's temptations throughout scripture; particularly when Satan told him to cast himself off the temple using scripture to back it up; and Christ retorted that we are not to test God. I cannot say that suicide is the unforgiveable sin; but at the very least eternal rewards will be lost for anyone who doesn't continue until the end of this earthly existence to walk in faith. As to my previous point; it would appear from the Book of Revelation that the accuser of our souls may not be cast down to earth until the midpoint of the Tribulation. It is certainly possible that those who are living in heaven are accused then; because afterwards the Antichrist or Beast curses those who LIVE IN HEAVEN. In either case He sustains us and has won the war despite current battles
"Chr. "Brother," said CHRISTIAN, "what shall we do? the life that we now live is miserable: for my part I know not whether is best--to live thus, or to die out of hand. 'My soul chooses strangling rather than life';
"So that my soul chooseth strangling, and death rather than my life." Job 7:15
and the grave is more easy for me than this dungeon. Shall we be ruled by the Giant?"
Hope says no
Hope: "'Indeed our present condition is dreadful, and death would be far more welcome to me than thus for ever to abide; but yet let us consider, the Lord of the country to which we are going hath said, "Thou shalt do no murder," no, not to another man's person. Much more, then, are we forbidden to take his counsel to kill ourselves.'" It is murder to kill oneself, and as stated in 1 John 3:15 "no murderer has eternal life"
God cares for you and is able to deliver you from your affliction.
Matthew 5:4 "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted"
Hello Ayen.
It is true that in this world some people have an easy life and others a rough life.
Apostle Paul himself was an example of a person who was going to have a brilliant and much promised life and carreer which turned around and became a very hard life. He had so many qualifications that probably in his face others were seeing a future leader for their political-religious establishment. But after he believed in Jesus all that went away. And what was left?
1 Cor 4:11-13
Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."
2 Cor 12:10
"Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong (why?)"
2 Cor 6:4-5
"But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings"
2 Cor 4:7-12
"But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.So then death worketh in us, but life in you."
So Paul rejected an excellent future for Jesus' sake. Why? Was he a masochist? No, but he was having in his mind another life, in another place, in Heaven, which lasts for ever.
Ayen O.
So keep going, don't quit, walk Jesus' way no matter what, all that will end sometime, sooner or later.
2 Cor 4:16-18
"For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day (ask God to always renew you). For our light affliction (light affliction Paul? Are you sure?), which is but for a moment (a life is a moment?), worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
Light affliction, a moment,..., that is how Paul was considering things.
And the future which waits for you is:
Rev 21:3-4
"And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."
In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, Lazarus' life was really harsh but he didn't quit, he kept trusting in the Lord till the very end and now is having a happy life in Heaven with God and all the saints there, and this will keep going for ever. It is worth all that trouble, isn't it?
As far as David and the ephod is concerned, God doesn't always answer the same way. He talks in various ways, maybe through the posts here. I am sure he will answer all your questions, but sometimes we have to wait, we are not mature yet to understand some things even if He answered them now, so be patient and wait. He will come to you.
So keep walking dear brother and ask God to strengthen you with His Grace in your way to Heaven. He will do it.
Are you in a church? If not, a very good idea is to join a church, you will find a lot of support there.
GBu
How to be sure you are saved:
1. If you confessed your sins and asked God to forgive you, He did. John 6:37 says He will not deny those who come to Him for salvation.
2. Rest assured that Jesus paid for your sins on the cross. In John 19:30 Jesus says, "It is finished." There's nothing else to be done except call upon His name for salvation--if you have done that, you are saved.
3. Assurance comes from that little voice inside us Who guides and convicts us of the way we should walk in Christ--the Holy Spirit is that voice. 1 John 3:24
4. A changed life. When we are saved the Holy Spirit transforms us into a new creature. He shreds away our old self and created a new being, a new heart. That doesn't mean we are perfect, doesn't mean we won't fail or fall into depression. If you had an encounter with Jesus that changed your life, you are saved. 1 John 2:3 says, we know we are saved if we keep his commandments.
If after prayer and being absolutely convinced that you are lost and therefore bound for hell, please know this:
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.
God Bless!
I just prayed and confessed the LORD Jesus' name again. I had gotten hope for a few minutes prior, but then when I realized that y situation has not changed for the better. I became very sad again. The hope deferred verse somewhere is similar to howI feel, but I feel worse, because every hope,the LORD has allowed enemies to take. GOD has not willed me to have yet, in as long as I've been on this earth to be able to hide my attempts to get out from under my abusers. Therefore they just destroy all those in ways I am unable to convince GOD to will otherwise.
Don't give up or give in to despair. You can come here anytime day and night and make your needs known to us. There will always be those of us who will pray for you. Some of us will post back to you, but many more are praying for you.
The Lord is with you every moment. You can call on Him in every time of need. Whenever you feel the urge to end your life, pray to the Lord. Read His Word, asking Him to speak to you through it.
Also, in these moments, instead of giving into this urge, come here and post so we can pray for you that you may be strengthened by our prayers.
Ayen, it sounds like you have endured a great deal of pain and distress in your lie. I am sorry that your life experience has been so difficult. God knows, He sees. He hears your cries. And He acts on your behalf even if you don't realize that He does.
Ayen, Keep strong in your faith in Jesus. Trust that He will help you. Lean on Him. He is your strength and shield, your deliverer and help in times of trouble. He will not fail you, leave you, nor forsake you. Stay alive, Ayen, for that is God's will for you.
Please respond back to us today and also often. We are glad to have you with us on this site. We really do care for you and will continue to lift you up in prayer. Check in with us, please. God's blessing be upon you today and always.
I had been writing a prayer request elsewhere, but then, I became afraid to post the one right before the one that I willpist here now. I became afraid all of a sudden, in an instant, and had a warning that GOD may give me the very thing I've been requesting, and that the LORD may answer it in a way I regret.
I believe someone had prayed FOR THAT/GOD may have been moved to command a heavenly angel or the Holy Spirit to put a fear in me. Because I had no fear until that instant to request death as the prophet Elijah did.
I do not have any reason to hope, unless GOD will bless me, because I have tried and prayed and used to fast, and nothing--fordecades has ever moved The LORD GOD to deliver me from my abusers. I believe He may do and does protect,but I have never been free of their hateful stalking. I can go nowhere that GOD will not they be allowed to follow, or reach into their Network to have me so followed. I do not expect to be believed, and I am sad, because I cannot do anything that GODwil not allow them to stop (other than being my own failure to pass). I am now sad again
I have been praying for you through the night and through this morning. I am so glad to hear from you. Stay the course of faith in God despite your circumstances. Understanding that you are homeless, I can see that it may be hard to get away from people who are abusing you. Have you gone to a church and explained your situation? Perhaps there is a church near you who will see to it that you are separated from these abusers. They may supply funds for you to move far away and connect you with another church in this new area to help you once you get there.
Keep checking in with us Ayen. We all want you to continue to live, but we also want you to be rescued from your abusers. God is able to do this. I pray that you will hear the direction God wants you to employ for this to occur and that He will strengthen your faith to do what He asks of you.
How are you doing this morning? I will be away from my computer most of the day, but I will continue to pray for you today.
I say this ONLY to let the brethren be FULLY AWARE that we STILL have wolves in sheep's clothing--not merely brethren that are struggling with discernment in Biblical matters, but out right predators that disguise themselves as brothers and sisters in Christ! I speak in TRUTH!
I thank you ALL--the TRUE brethren for tlthe taking if YOUR TIME to bless, to love, and to help one of your lesser, and weaker siblings in Christ! You, and others have lifted me up! I feel strength, for now, to speak in boldly!
At least ONE of the prayers on here, even before I read their message, my spirit saw the email alert of a new essage, and I was made to believe that--before reading a THING..that it was one of Satan's. Once I read..that was what I took away from it as well.
I will NOT EVER stir up anyone against anyone else, but as brothers and sisters, we MUST be EVER VIGILANT for ourselves--not just t
I am glad to hear from you today and to hear that you are uplifted through the work of God in you. We continue to pray for you because we know that God will answer in the best way for you today. As a mother, I pray for my three sons daily since they are prodigals and I so desire for them to turn back to the Lord. But in your case, you are turned to God and that is so wonderful! May God continue to comfort you and ease your suffering, distress, and provide for your needs today. Since you are in Christ Jesus, you will be safe from Satan's attacks. God protects those who are His own children. He is a good Father and hears you when you call upon Him. So, do so every time you feel that Satan is trying to get at you. Rebuke Satan and resist him always. The Word promises that he will flee from you. Believe this. Ayen. I really hope that you are able to get into a safe dwelling place soon. Keep checking back on here. WE are happy that you continue to do so.
I am a bit unclear as to who your abusers are. Can you elaborate please. I want to be able to pray for you in the best way.
I know that God wants you to live, or else He would have taken you in death by now, and this death would not be at your own hand. He alone is the one who decides life and death for anyone. so, taking your own life is never God's will.
I pray today for you.
Dear Heavenly Father, we again lift up Ayen before You in the name of Jesus and ask that You protect her from any abuse and remove those who wish to abuse her. We pray that You will give her a calm and peaceful spirit and a soundness of mind to approach her painful and difficult circumstances with wisdom, faith, and strength that comes from Your Spirit within her. We ask that You will bring her to a safe place to live and will connect her with those who can truly help her with shelter and daily necessities as well as spiritual guidance and fellowship. We ask that You replace in her the thoughts and urges to harm herself with remembrances of Your goodness, grace, salvation, unfailing love, and power to win every battle in any believer's life. You are able to shield her and overcome those who wish her harm. We trust You to do these things because You can only be Who You are, which is our Savior, Lord of all, and Sovereign of all creation. You can only do good and are able to defeat all evil. We thank you for loving and saving Ayen and bless You for being all that she needs to be freed from this situation. Free her today. Amen.
You are not alone when consumed with these thoughts it is lies from our enemy. LORD help Ayen to understand you are enough because you are everything we need, and this world is not our desire just reach out and put your hand in Jesus' hand.
This life is not ours to take, and Jesus did not come to earth and die for us so we could live a defeated life. Find someone, many understand and have walked this road before. Regardless of how dark it may seem now darkness is defined by the absence of light and life is light do not put it out.
Eternal God hear my cries right now for this loved one. You are loved Ayen. I cry out to You LORD with all my heart to touch Ayen to give him hope that he will keep going and show him he is not alone.
You can get through this Ayen, you can.
Love you, RLW send us another post, please.
I am so glad you have reached out on this site. There are many people praying for you. We want you to live and so does the Lord Jesus. Derek and Chris have advised you well. I pray that God will comfort your heart, bring you peace, and a desire to live to tell of His great work in You as you resist the urge to end your life and instead, obey Him and trust Him to help you. I pray that you will continue to pray through this time and, if possible seek to spend the rest of the night and tomorrow with someone else. Keep company with another until you have overcome this urge to die. The Lord is more than able to bring about a life affirming resolve to your situation. I pray that God will strengthen you to preserve your life for His sake. I pray that God will show you how He loves You so much and desires to keep You in His loving care in this life. Please, Lord God, intervene in Ayen's life right now. Amen.
The important words I want to bring to you, even as I have been praying for you, is in verse 6: even as "David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: BUT DAVID ENCOURAGED HIMSELF IN THE LORD HIS GOD". His wives were captured, his people wanted to stone him, but he took his eyes off his problems & griefs, and looked to the LORD Who had always been faithful to him. YES, David determined in his heart to encourage himself (or, strengthen himself) to look to God & not himself/his pain.
Would you do that dear Ayen? Your pain might be great, BUT God is greater and will carry you through - He wants your faith in Him - He wants you to gaze only on Him. As I prayed, two things came to me: one, a Scripture from 1 Peter 1:6-9, and also, friends from India unbeknown to them just sent me a hymn as a Word of God for you.
In 1 Peter, Peter was encouraging the dispersed believers, that in spite of their many trials in life & faith, what they were going through was "much more precious than of gold" and through it, their faith may be unto the "praise and honour and glory at Christ's appearing". And the 'reward of their faith is the salvation of their souls'.
And the hymn sent to me was, "In the garden". You can read the words on the Web, but the refrain is: "And He walks with me, and He talks with me, And He tells me I am His own, And the joy we share as we tarry there, None other has ever known." God wants you to trust Him fully.
Welcome to the community. I am praying for you at this moment. I'd like to ask why your request is so urgent? Isn't it fair to give yourself a bit more time, because often emotions change.
I considered doing something dramatic when I was down some years ago and now that time has passed I'm so glad I didn't take action on those feelings, because my feelings changed, and my situation changed. Would you like to give yourself more time to talk things through with someone and to be prayed for? At bare minimum can you do yourself a favor and call a hotline 1-800-273-TALK (8255) and speak to someone now? I'll also check back on this thread as I and I'm sure others are happy to communicate with you.
About your question- our bodies are not even ours, but God's temple and its of course a sin to harm the things He creates and loves. Knowing what I know now, I'd never risk such a thing. God will provide your needs if you have a little more patience. I believe you will get through what you are dealing with and when this happens it results in a refreshing change of perspective.
For immediate relief from whatever may be bothering you, you can interrupt the thoughts if you do something kind for someone else tonight, offering support to someone homeless, calling someone you haven't spoken to in a long time, giving someone a gift card unexpectedly, just showing someone else that you care. Everyone is valuable and important when you help lift up someone else. What if one of your friends or acquaintances is going through something similar and hasn't told you or anyone else, would you prefer them to tell you? Maybe that's how others feel about you? Prayer. Also, make sure your physical needs are attended to, like sleep, take a long bath, get a nice workout in, watch a funny movie. These are ideas to calm down temporary emotions. God bless you.
"And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do." Luke 12:4 KJV
I think it means we don't have to be afraid of others. They don't control us.
Philippians 4:10-13 - Paul was in prison, beaten, had all kinds of hardship, people wanted to kill him, was hungry, he probably dealt with guilt from his past, he walked long distances and stayed in random places regularly. But (verse 11) he said he found the secret of being content. This means our external circumstances don't affect our emotional state of joy in the Lord or contentment as much as people commonly assume.
"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." 1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV
This means to me that God is aware of our circumstance and won't let us be trapped in a situation of sin. We always have a way out.
One way to love and be fair to yourself is by challenging any negative ideas to see if they are based on truth or not. Not all thoughts are true and its ok to gently challenge them.
For example I used to think bad things about myself and the belief crippled me for some years, but I later discovered weren't true. It was liberating and felt free realizing this.
If you were to start this challenge I would start by re-examining statements you said like "I cannot get anywhere in life" or "GOD will not stop Satan's bchildren from stopping me" and ask for each: is that really true? Is there any evidence for this or what is this idea based on? Is it true for others? What if it isn't true? What is the evidence of it not being true?"
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