Prophets and Teachers are distinct from one another but both minister correct? This is my opinion of course . in basic terms, a prophet is one through whom revelation is given, while a teacher is one who explains revelation.
Since Phillip was an evangelist who had four virgin daughters which did prophesy . this to me suggests evangelism , ministering , leadership in the Church .
A prophet is a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God. While a teacher is someone who educates emphasis on school. They both educate the difference, one gets you ready for this life while the other prepares you for the after life. Prophet and Teacher Barnabas, and Simeon Acts 13 in the church in Antioch both minister to the Lord were separated and sent out by The Holy Spirit and they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews: This further suggests they both preached the word of God in the Church .
It is sad to silence women , God's Holy Spirit works through whomever God chooses it to . I know many women who understand the things in the Bible better than I do . Should I not listen to them just because they are women ? Should I not learn from them just because they are women ? What if God wants to teach me something through a woman but I say " no I can't listen to you because you are a woman " ? Should I reject God's message to me just because I don't like the messenger ? Would that not be akin to denying God's Holy Spirit ? I shall listen to God's Holy Spirit wherever I hear it . The Spirit of Truth should not be silenced . Shame on me for not listening to the message because I don't approve of the messenger .
Hello, do a word study . the verse is implying calm; for the believer . it doesn't mean speechlessness. the word has several usages, the translators didn't use the appropriate cognate for our American brains . I'm thinkin, what would an old english dude say to his hysterical wife ? SILENCE ! lol
God's Word says all throughout that when women are Ruling Over and/or Leading Men/ Males. Period. It is an reprehensible and an abomination thing in the sight of God our Heavenly Father above. However, from a "Wag The Dog" perspective God Himself in His Word gave us a few examples of Women in Leadership: in OT- Gen (Eve), Ruth, 1 Kings (Jezebel), Esther; NT- Mary(s), Martha and re-mentions of those Women, along with others, in the OT.
There are no passages where women were said to be preaching a sermon. Paul makes it clear as to their role in church not having "authority" over a man ( 1 Timothy 2:12). 1 Corinthians 14:34 shows where women were told to be silent in churches and ask questions at home. The fact that women are mentioned prophesying and praying in corporate worship certainly doesn't mean that nothing can be said ( 1 Cor. 11:5). The qualifier here should be noted that women were asking questions and likely causing other disturbances during a worship service. It fits in with the idea of orderly worship in what was the most disorderly church mentioned in scripture in Corinth.
There is certainly agreement anywhere that I know of in traditional and Reformed circles that women have a role in teaching children and also guiding other women in knowledge of the scriptures. This is clear from the women that Paul Himself commends such as Lydia ( Acts 16:11-15 and elsewhere). There was teaching of Godly men who were children of women as well that are mentioned. There are also rules for Christian women as well as men whose spouses were not believers in regard to staying with them if they were agreeable and in some sense; "winning them over" ( 1 Peter 3:2). The concept of submission is clear in scripture as to women; as well as husbands loving in a sacrificial manner as Christ loved the church ( Eph. 5:25). Many men would like to bypass their responsibilities in this regard.
As to any sort of public forum outside a large congregational formal worship service obviously there are gray areas. I would challenge you to find ANY female preachers that are not in some serious doctrinal error (although men are getting harder to find today as well). I have certainly read brilliant writings such as Amy Van Gerpen's book on Revelation (which may finally be complete after years of work). I don't think she does self promoting; but in my opinion it has the most detailed cross references anywhere.
I'm of the opinion 1 Timothy 2:12 is saying women should not admonish , nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. since women are easily deceived as was Eve , and not Adam in the Garden
The disturbances in 1 Corinthians 14:34 is suffice to say .
I find it absurd to think women are not to teach the Gospel , nor prophesy all throughout this dispensation of time , but then are permitted to in the end times where sons and daughters shall prophesy written of in the book of Joel 2:28 .
I just think there's something more to the word "teach" in 1 Timothy 2:12 - 15 .
No dear Baker, prophesing is not teaching. There are two types of prophets in New Testament.
1. The gift of prophesing ( 1 Cor 12:7-11). A woman can have that gift and prophesy ( Acts 21:8-9). The gifts are given by the Holly Spirit. This gift has nothing to do with teaching, that is why in the next chapter ( 1 Cor 14:34) where Paul keeps talking about gifts, especially about speaking in tongues and prophesing, he forbids women to teach in the church. So prophesing has nothing to do with teaching (some churches have this specific belief).
2. The ministry of prophet ( Ephesians 4:11), which is something different from the gift of prophesing described in Corinthians. In Acts 13:1-3 in the church there are both prophets and teachers, which means they are different ministries. All ministers, Apostles, Pastors, Evangelists, Teachers, Prophets(once more teachers and prophets are separate ministries) are males, we don't see any woman in that position in the Gospels. As written it is Jesus who appoints ministers in the church (not the Holly Spirit who gives the gifts). All ministers can teach in the church, as well. ( Acts 15:32).
Prophets and Teachers are distinct from one another but both minister correct? This is my opinion of course . in basic terms, a prophet is one through whom revelation is given, while a teacher is one who explains revelation.
Since Phillip was an evangelist who had four virgin daughters which did prophesy . this to me suggests evangelism , ministering , leadership in the Church .
A prophet is a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God. While a teacher is someone who educates emphasis on school. They both educate the difference, one gets you ready for this life while the other prepares you for the after life. Prophet and Teacher Barnabas, and Simeon Acts 13 in the church in Antioch both minister to the Lord were separated and sent out by The Holy Spirit and they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews: This further suggests they both preached the word of God in the Church .
Godspeed
There is certainly agreement anywhere that I know of in traditional and Reformed circles that women have a role in teaching children and also guiding other women in knowledge of the scriptures. This is clear from the women that Paul Himself commends such as Lydia ( Acts 16:11-15 and elsewhere). There was teaching of Godly men who were children of women as well that are mentioned. There are also rules for Christian women as well as men whose spouses were not believers in regard to staying with them if they were agreeable and in some sense; "winning them over" ( 1 Peter 3:2). The concept of submission is clear in scripture as to women; as well as husbands loving in a sacrificial manner as Christ loved the church ( Eph. 5:25). Many men would like to bypass their responsibilities in this regard.
As to any sort of public forum outside a large congregational formal worship service obviously there are gray areas. I would challenge you to find ANY female preachers that are not in some serious doctrinal error (although men are getting harder to find today as well). I have certainly read brilliant writings such as Amy Van Gerpen's book on Revelation (which may finally be complete after years of work). I don't think she does self promoting; but in my opinion it has the most detailed cross references anywhere.
I'm of the opinion 1 Timothy 2:12 is saying women should not admonish , nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. since women are easily deceived as was Eve , and not Adam in the Garden
The disturbances in 1 Corinthians 14:34 is suffice to say .
I find it absurd to think women are not to teach the Gospel , nor prophesy all throughout this dispensation of time , but then are permitted to in the end times where sons and daughters shall prophesy written of in the book of Joel 2:28 .
I just think there's something more to the word "teach" in 1 Timothy 2:12 - 15 .
1. The gift of prophesing ( 1 Cor 12:7-11). A woman can have that gift and prophesy ( Acts 21:8-9). The gifts are given by the Holly Spirit. This gift has nothing to do with teaching, that is why in the next chapter ( 1 Cor 14:34) where Paul keeps talking about gifts, especially about speaking in tongues and prophesing, he forbids women to teach in the church. So prophesing has nothing to do with teaching (some churches have this specific belief).
2. The ministry of prophet ( Ephesians 4:11), which is something different from the gift of prophesing described in Corinthians. In Acts 13:1-3 in the church there are both prophets and teachers, which means they are different ministries. All ministers, Apostles, Pastors, Evangelists, Teachers, Prophets(once more teachers and prophets are separate ministries) are males, we don't see any woman in that position in the Gospels. As written it is Jesus who appoints ministers in the church (not the Holly Spirit who gives the gifts). All ministers can teach in the church, as well. ( Acts 15:32).
GBU
This comment thread is locked. Please enter a new comment below to start a new comment thread.
Note: Comment threads older than 2 months are automatically locked.
Do you have a Bible comment or question?
Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!
Report Comment
Which best represents the problem with the comment?