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Despite what modern thinking states.The law of God has not changed ,nor will. And every seed will "bring forth fruit after its own kind " each fruit having within itself its own seed which will reproduce after its own kind .
We are MAN kind for it is nota woman that has the seed but the man.
What came first ? The chicken or the egg? The chicken .
You can argue that dog kind can vary from a Great Dane at one end to a tiny toy dog at the other they are all of a kind .A cat being another kind .
You can cross breed a horse with a donkey for they are a very close ' kind' but while you will get a Mule as a result ,a mule has no life in it to reproduce itself . So if you want another mule you need another horse and donkey .
So likewise if you mix truth with error you will get ' something' but it has no life in it to reproduce itself .
Jesus speaking of Himself taught " that unless a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone ,but if it does it will bring forth much fruit " what sort of fruit? After its own kind.
When God spoke in the beginning and after Adam had sinned he spoke of " the woman's seed" .
And "the serpents seed "
Clearly God knew of the biology he had created but willing to show that this (it) one ,male( he) child born of a woman thus fully man would not be of Adams seed spoke in a manner wisdom dictated . The seed of the woman shall bruise the serpents head and the serpent would bruise his heal "
The gospel in embryonic form .
"The seed which is the Word of God " which was not of Adam thus not corrupted nor born in sin nor shapen in iniquity which became flesh was and is the express image of the invisible God .
Thus the seed of the serpent and the ' seed of the woman ' each brings forth fruit after its own kind .
And is it not written ? " By their fruits shall ye know them ".
According to (it's) kind is the correct read . groups of living organisms belong in the same created kind if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool . grass seed will yield grass , fruit seed will yield fruit ... This does not preclude new species because this represents a partitioning of the original gene pool . Information is lost or conserved not gained . A new species could arrive when a population is isolated and inbreeding occurs . By this definition a new species is not a new kind but a further partitioning of an existing kind . Strong's Hebrew
After reading this , go back to the chapter and read verse 11 - to the end , I think it will provide a bit more clarity , it did for me , thanks .
God is being taken out of even the language. We are " Mankind" on the simple basis of biology but also of the law of God that states that every seed will bring forth fruit " after its own kind" .
Thus overall we are MAN kind .
In general we are MAN . For man was created first out of the dust of the earth and are apt to forget that the woman was created second out of the body of the man .
But God doing all things well and right sae fit to have all men be born of a woman .
The woman was not created from his head to " Lord " it over him . Nor from his feet for him to trample over her . Not from his back so she must walk behind him . But rather from his side his rib, to walk with him and as a " help meet for him" .
There is also in all this a foreshadow of the Bride of Christ as is fitting . For even as Eve was created from the body of the first Adam so too the Bride of Christ will come from the Body of Christ .
It is worth mentioning perhaps also that while man was created in the image of God . He is BORN in the image of Adam. Thus born in sin and shapen in iniquity "
Which is why we " must be born again " not of that corruptible seed but if the incorruptible seed which is the Word of God ".
I would suggest that the letter to the Hebrews among other scripture shows that man has no connection with angels nor in any image of them nor are they in any image of God .
"For it was not to angels did God say."
Nor is there any where in scripture where man was created in any other image but of God .
But though man was created in the image of God. He is BORN in the image of Adam.
The image of God has been so lost or marred by the fall and sin of man it is no longer recognisable in man .
Did not Jesus who was and is the " express image of the invisible God" state He came " to seek and to save that which is lost"?
And did not He teach ,speaking of himself ," that unless a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone"?
But if it so dies " it brings forth much fruit"?
What sort of fruit? After its own kind .
Hence the desperate need to be BORN again not of that corruptible seed which is of the first Adam . But of the " incorruptible seed which is of the " last Adam" .
GOD created them from the start only man was made formed his likeness meaning he formed man and created him to walk like God look, talk and sit and stand like GOD but not in the nature of God
The bible clearly states that In Genesis 1:21 God created great whales and onwards shows they are not a copy of another creature from heaven above or earth below.
On 25 about beasts of the earth as it is written GOD made them after their kind meaning classification or into different category or specific groups not a copy as well.
Remember this is the word of God which is in truth
Pray and ask for more understanding God is faithful to shows us amen
We are MAN kind for it is nota woman that has the seed but the man.
What came first ? The chicken or the egg? The chicken .
You can argue that dog kind can vary from a Great Dane at one end to a tiny toy dog at the other they are all of a kind .A cat being another kind .
You can cross breed a horse with a donkey for they are a very close ' kind' but while you will get a Mule as a result ,a mule has no life in it to reproduce itself . So if you want another mule you need another horse and donkey .
So likewise if you mix truth with error you will get ' something' but it has no life in it to reproduce itself .
Jesus speaking of Himself taught " that unless a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone ,but if it does it will bring forth much fruit " what sort of fruit? After its own kind.
When God spoke in the beginning and after Adam had sinned he spoke of " the woman's seed" .
And "the serpents seed "
Clearly God knew of the biology he had created but willing to show that this (it) one ,male( he) child born of a woman thus fully man would not be of Adams seed spoke in a manner wisdom dictated . The seed of the woman shall bruise the serpents head and the serpent would bruise his heal "
The gospel in embryonic form .
"The seed which is the Word of God " which was not of Adam thus not corrupted nor born in sin nor shapen in iniquity which became flesh was and is the express image of the invisible God .
Thus the seed of the serpent and the ' seed of the woman ' each brings forth fruit after its own kind .
And is it not written ? " By their fruits shall ye know them ".
After reading this , go back to the chapter and read verse 11 - to the end , I think it will provide a bit more clarity , it did for me , thanks .
Thus overall we are MAN kind .
In general we are MAN . For man was created first out of the dust of the earth and are apt to forget that the woman was created second out of the body of the man .
But God doing all things well and right sae fit to have all men be born of a woman .
The woman was not created from his head to " Lord " it over him . Nor from his feet for him to trample over her . Not from his back so she must walk behind him . But rather from his side his rib, to walk with him and as a " help meet for him" .
There is also in all this a foreshadow of the Bride of Christ as is fitting . For even as Eve was created from the body of the first Adam so too the Bride of Christ will come from the Body of Christ .
It is worth mentioning perhaps also that while man was created in the image of God . He is BORN in the image of Adam. Thus born in sin and shapen in iniquity "
Which is why we " must be born again " not of that corruptible seed but if the incorruptible seed which is the Word of God ".
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"For it was not to angels did God say."
Nor is there any where in scripture where man was created in any other image but of God .
But though man was created in the image of God. He is BORN in the image of Adam.
The image of God has been so lost or marred by the fall and sin of man it is no longer recognisable in man .
Did not Jesus who was and is the " express image of the invisible God" state He came " to seek and to save that which is lost"?
And did not He teach ,speaking of himself ," that unless a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone"?
But if it so dies " it brings forth much fruit"?
What sort of fruit? After its own kind .
Hence the desperate need to be BORN again not of that corruptible seed which is of the first Adam . But of the " incorruptible seed which is of the " last Adam" .
The bible clearly states that In Genesis 1:21 God created great whales and onwards shows they are not a copy of another creature from heaven above or earth below.
On 25 about beasts of the earth as it is written GOD made them after their kind meaning classification or into different category or specific groups not a copy as well.
Remember this is the word of God which is in truth
Pray and ask for more understanding God is faithful to shows us amen
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