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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 205929

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Coming judgment.

    In light of recent events; it seems prudent to take a sober approach to what's going down. It seems to me; despite the fact that everyone who knows the truth seems to find it an inconvenient concept is that we are any moment about to enter the Tribulation.

    This is no disparaging of those who have pleaded for revival within; or restoration of the USA in particular encompassing believers and nonbelievers alike. Perhaps this is why there seem to be few sounding the alarm that judgment is at the door; Antichrist about to be revealed; the Mark of the Beast; etc.

    It seems as well that we often forget that God Himself is allowing things to come to an expected end; the Rapture of the Church; Jacob's Trouble and the resulting calamities; and the final Millennial restoration of Israel to its promised territorial gains and rulership under the Christ; the Throne of David and all the saints with Him. We also have to look carefully at what has been standard belief that 1948 was the "beginning of the last generation" rather than a signpost. Certainly those who thought so will have to analyze this theory since the limit in 2028 has already passed allowing for a 7 year Tribulation first. In any event many are said to fall away; with damnable heresies within the church in the last days.

    Rather than focusing on keeping our material possessions or lifestyle up to par; we should consider how much Grace has been shown to our nation who has murdered countless unborn; and whose sins certainly are stacked up as described for Babylon (whether or not we indeed are mystery Babylon). It is the remnant; like in the days of Lot who remain. Clearly more and more people are demonstating that the "vacuum" inside of God is something NOT desired to be filled; in fact it is increasingly being deliberately handed over to Satan himself. The world is waiting for their superman; savior; Maitreya; Grand Imam or any other candidate to answer the call.
  • Anonymous - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Richard,

    I let the Bible define itself, simple, or risk compounding errors.

    The last week (7 years) of 70 weeks is a 2,000 year old power prophesy between Christ and the man of sin (anti-christ).

    Daniel 9:26-27 Jesus had the first 3.5 years of absolute power, and was cut off (crucified). At the sixth trumpet, when anti-christ strikes, he too will have 3.5 years of absolute power, between the sixth and seventh trumpets. In the "midst of the week" he will deliver the abomination of desolation to US NATO & Israel, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, falling away.

    "the last half of the Tribulation lasting 1260 days is" = The GREAT tribulation, Matthew 24:15, the sixth trumpet strike on Israel (whole house).

    There is no rapture, it's a lie. We are all appointed one death, Hebrews 9:27. Look what Ezekiel said about the day of the Lord deaths: Ezekiel 21:1-5. Verse 4: Both the righteous and the wicked die!!! What did Jesus say about it? Luke 17:34-37, He's asked where do the people go? He answers, 'wherever the body is, so will the vultures be'. They are part of the 2.6 billion dead, Revelation 9:18, from the GREAT tribulation. The 1st resurrection is at the seventh trumpet, NOT before.

    Revelation 13. Who are the two beasts?
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The time period of the Tribulation fits in to Daniel 9:24-27 where there is a period of 70 "weeks" of years. In these verses we see how a covenant made is broken; and the last half of the Tribulation lasting 1260 days is mentioned at the end of Daniel 12. The 1335 days mentioned would likely be the period when Christ arrives and the whole campaign of Armageddon is fought likely also encompassing the time of the Ezekiel 38 war. This would show the sequence from Zechariah 12 when the remaining Jews finally recognize Christ as Messiah; through Zechariah 14 where half of the city is taken; and Christ goes out to fight against the enemies. The end of that last chapter in Zechariah gets into the Millennium. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 gets into the belief in "The Lie"; also see 1 Thessalonians 5:3 about everyone talking about "peace and safety or security." The covenant with "death and hell" is also seen in Isaiah 28:18 where the nation of Israel deliberately makes an agreement with Antichrist.

    The seven year period apparently is also stated in the Koran someplace about their version of the 12th Imam or world ruler which is the length of time that leader is supposed to rule. Of course; we don't know if the Tribulation begins immediately after the Rapture. It is at that time that the Restrainer; or function of the Holy Spirit in the church is removed ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7). For now; the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church. ( Matthew 16:18). According to Daniel in the time of trial for His people the saints WILL be overcome by the Beast or Antichrist ( Daniel 7:25). We see how the boastful words there are a parallel to what is going on in Revelation 13.

    It is a theory of mine that if you make each seal; trumpet and bowl a period of months and add it up you get 7 years. (1+2+3+4+5+6+7) X 3. That is; 28 X 3 months or 84 months is equal to 7 years. Daniel uses 360 day years. Revelation 11:1-2 describes the 2 witnesses likely the first half of the Trib.
  • Roman - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Explain to me what you mean by a 7 year tribulation.

    You say some things I don't understand, so if I point them out, will you respond? Reply back?

    Daily chapter breakdowns aren't debated enough.

    Thanks
  • Anonymous - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Richard,

    Between the fifth and sixth trumpets is tribulation. Between the sixth and seventh trumpets is the GREAT tribulation, as Jesus Christ called it himself, Mathew 24:21. We are on the heals of destruction (sixth trumpet), so that means looking back in recent history to pin point the fifth trumpet event, like 9/11/01, Revelation 9:1-11.

    Do you know what occurs at the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord? The abomination of desolation, Matthew 24:15, is brought upon modern day Israel, and the world, setting forth the GREAT tribulation. The world will be a curse, Malachi 4:5-6.



    We are currently in tribulation, at the tail end of the fifth trumpet, and in the midst of Revelation 17. America is pushing a $70 billion proxy war with Russia. The king of the south is facing the mighty Russian beast, whose Dec 25, 1991 deadly wound has healed into the king of the north, Daniel 11:40. It's Esau vs Jacob, leaving Jacob without root nor branch, Obadiah 1. It's also the beast and Babylon, making 3 allegories to confuse you for a lifetime if you can't make the connections.

    We are literally waiting for the US/Israel to strike Iran (or the like), Revelation 6:14 sixth seal, and eventually bring about the sixth trumpet overthrow of the whole house of Israel. US NATO Israel receive their visitation.

    You see, there is a big difference between tribulation and GREAT tribulation.



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