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Even though Jesus probably wasn't born on Dec 25th there are many good things about the world celebrating His birth. Jesus is in Christmas carols and Christmas has Christ in it.
Even though the message gets distorted, corrupt, commercialized, watered down, exploited, I think God is powerful enough to reach people through it. I think through God's power people can even receive the gospel through showy, fake looking, money hungry false teachers on TV. 1 Cor 1:21. God can use anyone he wants. He used Paul who didn't consider himself wise or eloquent and previously killed Christians. 1 Cor 1:17. He used Moses who likely had a speech issue and felt self-conscious or maybe even embarassed. Ex 4:10. The disciples had various issues. God loves us, with all our imperfections and shortcomings. God bless and merry Christmas!
And we believe that this Person of this prophecy is Jesus.
This leads us to wonder how God and man exists in Jesus.
Through time there have been many debates about the Person of Jesus (Christology). There have been many ideas that have been rejected as heresy. What is the orthodox (accepted belief based on the Bible) is that in the Person of Jesus are two natures, human and divine. These natures are full and complete. Neither is diminished or subtracted from. But these two natures make up just one single Person, not a human person and a divine person. But one Person with two natures. Also, accepted belief is that God took on a human nature into His divinity without mixing the natures, with them remaining distinct and separate, but these were unified in the one Person of Jesus. Also, this means that Jesus did not take over another person's body. The body (and nature was created for Him alone. The divine Son of God cannot be extracted from the human nature and there still remain a human person. The Son of God became the Person that assumed and owns this human nature. And He does so forever. Believing this avoids the error of the Divine Son entering into another human person at some point. He took on the fleshly nature created at this conception. But nature and personhood are not the same thing. The nature belongs to the person, not the person belonging to the nature.
When I consider that the Divine, limitless, Son enter into time and space to become man in this way, I am awed by the condescension He bore to do this for us. When I celebrate Christmas, I think on these things deeply when I read the nativity accounts in Scripture and sing Christmas Hymns. My favorite is "O Holy Night" but I love all of the Christmas Hymns that center on proclaiming the truth and advent of Jesus my Savior, Messiah, and Lord.
As we approach Christmas, may we all contemplate the wonder, the splendor, the love, the grace, the mercy of God to the incarnation.
Or, did the Father create a male seed and place it into Mary's fallopian tube to join her egg with the Son simultaneously taking upon Himself the humanity of this first cell union? Or, did the Jesus put Himself into the male seed the Father created to then impregnate Mary? In Genesis 3 it is said that the "seed" of the woman will crush the serpent. Was this referring to the completed person of Jesus or to the divinely created "seed"? So many questions that we will most likely not find the answer to until heaven. But even though we do not scientifically know the workings of this miracle conception, we believe it. We know that it fulfills prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 "Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and his name shall be called "Immanuel."'
The fulfillment of prophecy helps us in too be sure of our belief in this extraordinary, miraculous, unique, one-time-only, divine event.
Prophecy also spoke that the Messiah would be a descendant of David, which Jesus was through Mary. ( 2 Sam. 7:12-13.; Ps. 131:11; Jer. 23:5.) So does this mean that Jesus had the DNA of Mary (in the X) and then the DNA of God (in the Y)?
Or did the Father create Davidic DNA in the zygote He created? Either way, because lineages were well kept by the Jews, especially those in the line of David, due to the Messiah coming from him, we can read in Matthew 1:1 that Jesus was the descendant of David. He bona fide manhood (man in essence and nature).
But also, the Scriptures tell us that He also possessed Godhood (God in essence and nature. Is. 9:6 prophesied that this Son born to the virgin would be God in the flesh. "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulders And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
So this verse tells us that an actual flesh and blood human child will be born, but also that a divine Son would be given by the Father.
Yes, Adam, even though we do not know the exact day and year of Jesus' birth, it is not so important for us to discuss possibilities for this date as it is to discuss the marvel that occurred in our world with His Incarnation.
Some people will argue that it is impossible (in those times) for a virgin to be with child. But they may believe that God created the whole world from nothing, or that He took out of Adam's side to form create Eve. These miracles can be done by God because of who He is. It isn't about whether one can understand it or if science can prove or disprove it. God has done these things. We believe it.
For those who cannot believe that God can become man, I would point them to Jesus healing people, restoring sight, raising some from the dead. If these can be done by God, certainly God can incarnate into human flesh with a full human nature, mind, will, soul, emotions, intellect, and body. We believe this because we believe that God is all-powerful and all-wise, so nothing good is impossible for Him.
Also, along with believing that God can Incarnate into human flesh, we can wonder "How can this happen?"
The Scripture says that Mary, first of all, consented to God's will in this. She agreed to whatever God wished to do to her to bring this about. She was most likely quite young, (in her teens), but had been brought up well and had faith in God to the point of trusting Him to do what she would have never dreamed of occurring. She also trusted God, knowing the shame it would bring her and perhaps losing her betrothed husband, Joseph, as a result of obeying God. She counted the cost and agreed with God's will and destiny for her.
Secondly, the power of God (the Holy Spirit) overshadowed Mary and the Father caused her to conceive His Son in her womb. We don't know exactly how this happened. Did the Father create a zygote and place it in Mary's womb with the Son taking on the corporeal zygote, DNA and all simultaneously?
Adam, Merry Christmas to you also and may the Lord continue to bless you and your family abundantly, and may you continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Even though Jesus probably wasn't born on Dec 25th there are many good things about the world celebrating His birth. Jesus is in Christmas carols and Christmas has Christ in it.
Even though the message gets distorted, corrupt, commercialized, watered down, exploited, I think God is powerful enough to reach people through it. I think through God's power people can even receive the gospel through showy, fake looking, money hungry false teachers on TV. 1 Cor 1:21. God can use anyone he wants. He used Paul who didn't consider himself wise or eloquent and previously killed Christians. 1 Cor 1:17. He used Moses who likely had a speech issue and felt self-conscious or maybe even embarassed. Ex 4:10. The disciples had various issues. God loves us, with all our imperfections and shortcomings. God bless and merry Christmas!
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And we believe that this Person of this prophecy is Jesus.
This leads us to wonder how God and man exists in Jesus.
Through time there have been many debates about the Person of Jesus (Christology). There have been many ideas that have been rejected as heresy. What is the orthodox (accepted belief based on the Bible) is that in the Person of Jesus are two natures, human and divine. These natures are full and complete. Neither is diminished or subtracted from. But these two natures make up just one single Person, not a human person and a divine person. But one Person with two natures. Also, accepted belief is that God took on a human nature into His divinity without mixing the natures, with them remaining distinct and separate, but these were unified in the one Person of Jesus. Also, this means that Jesus did not take over another person's body. The body (and nature was created for Him alone. The divine Son of God cannot be extracted from the human nature and there still remain a human person. The Son of God became the Person that assumed and owns this human nature. And He does so forever. Believing this avoids the error of the Divine Son entering into another human person at some point. He took on the fleshly nature created at this conception. But nature and personhood are not the same thing. The nature belongs to the person, not the person belonging to the nature.
When I consider that the Divine, limitless, Son enter into time and space to become man in this way, I am awed by the condescension He bore to do this for us. When I celebrate Christmas, I think on these things deeply when I read the nativity accounts in Scripture and sing Christmas Hymns. My favorite is "O Holy Night" but I love all of the Christmas Hymns that center on proclaiming the truth and advent of Jesus my Savior, Messiah, and Lord.
As we approach Christmas, may we all contemplate the wonder, the splendor, the love, the grace, the mercy of God to the incarnation.
Or, did the Father create a male seed and place it into Mary's fallopian tube to join her egg with the Son simultaneously taking upon Himself the humanity of this first cell union? Or, did the Jesus put Himself into the male seed the Father created to then impregnate Mary? In Genesis 3 it is said that the "seed" of the woman will crush the serpent. Was this referring to the completed person of Jesus or to the divinely created "seed"? So many questions that we will most likely not find the answer to until heaven. But even though we do not scientifically know the workings of this miracle conception, we believe it. We know that it fulfills prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 "Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and his name shall be called "Immanuel."'
The fulfillment of prophecy helps us in too be sure of our belief in this extraordinary, miraculous, unique, one-time-only, divine event.
Prophecy also spoke that the Messiah would be a descendant of David, which Jesus was through Mary. ( 2 Sam. 7:12-13.; Ps. 131:11; Jer. 23:5.) So does this mean that Jesus had the DNA of Mary (in the X) and then the DNA of God (in the Y)?
Or did the Father create Davidic DNA in the zygote He created? Either way, because lineages were well kept by the Jews, especially those in the line of David, due to the Messiah coming from him, we can read in Matthew 1:1 that Jesus was the descendant of David. He bona fide manhood (man in essence and nature).
But also, the Scriptures tell us that He also possessed Godhood (God in essence and nature. Is. 9:6 prophesied that this Son born to the virgin would be God in the flesh. "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulders And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
So this verse tells us that an actual flesh and blood human child will be born, but also that a divine Son would be given by the Father.
Some people will argue that it is impossible (in those times) for a virgin to be with child. But they may believe that God created the whole world from nothing, or that He took out of Adam's side to form create Eve. These miracles can be done by God because of who He is. It isn't about whether one can understand it or if science can prove or disprove it. God has done these things. We believe it.
For those who cannot believe that God can become man, I would point them to Jesus healing people, restoring sight, raising some from the dead. If these can be done by God, certainly God can incarnate into human flesh with a full human nature, mind, will, soul, emotions, intellect, and body. We believe this because we believe that God is all-powerful and all-wise, so nothing good is impossible for Him.
Also, along with believing that God can Incarnate into human flesh, we can wonder "How can this happen?"
The Scripture says that Mary, first of all, consented to God's will in this. She agreed to whatever God wished to do to her to bring this about. She was most likely quite young, (in her teens), but had been brought up well and had faith in God to the point of trusting Him to do what she would have never dreamed of occurring. She also trusted God, knowing the shame it would bring her and perhaps losing her betrothed husband, Joseph, as a result of obeying God. She counted the cost and agreed with God's will and destiny for her.
Secondly, the power of God (the Holy Spirit) overshadowed Mary and the Father caused her to conceive His Son in her womb. We don't know exactly how this happened. Did the Father create a zygote and place it in Mary's womb with the Son taking on the corporeal zygote, DNA and all simultaneously?
I agree! Just because we don't know Christ birthday doesn't mean we can't celebrate it.
For unto us a child is born,
( His birth )
unto us a son is given:
( The crucifixion )
The Lord is everlasting so we can celebrate it 365 days a year if chosen.
Merry Christmas and God bless you.
God bless!!!
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