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  • WhiteWalkDawg - 1 year ago
    In I John 5:6 what is the water, and what is the blood?
  • Alex1939 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Alex1939...Hiya...WhiteWalk...Lemme give ya my take on the water and the blood...Its prophetic of the New Covenant in his blood...A birthing covenant...When a woman gives birth blood and water is 1st thing she sees...Smite the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered..Then I will turn my hand to the lil ones...The babes and sucklings an Israel of God...As that which is born of the spirit is spirit Zech 13 :7 is telling us...God was making a New Covenant with the blood and the water of Jesus...Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...The blood and the water is indicative of a Birth of Christ in us...Humanity...The water is symbolic of the water of the living word as you are made clean by the word i have spoken unto you...And this is the blood of the New Covenant drink ye all of it...But even in the natural there is always a child that precedes the blood and the water...The Child is the H.G. That Child of Promise...b/c of his death, when a seed dies it multiplies...Had he not died there wd have been only 1 Christ Jesus but b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven...When they saw the blood and the water they knew he had died...And thats y Zech. is saying he is our 1st born our only son...When a seed dies it multiplies...The lil ones ...There is much more to this New Covenant on Calvary then what meets the eye...Its hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes...The H.G. That CHILD of

    Promise... Zech 12:10 and Zech 13:7...Thats y he always refered to himself as the son of man...B/C of his death mankind will bring forth fruit unto God.. Romans 7:4...This is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it... In Adam we all die but in Christ we will all live...If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME....OK
  • Hammer63 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The word in the New Testament is referred to several times as the water (probably for the word's cleansing of the heart). Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. St. John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. St. John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Sometime the reference to the water and the word are not in the same verse, but in the following verses it is the water, the word that a person becomes born again. St. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Could also be the separation from sin symbolized by baptism, the children of Israel passing through the Red Sea, etc.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello WhiteWalkDawg. There have been several interpretations of this verse, so you might get other views. For me though, I believe that 1 John 5:6 speaks of Jesus' inauguration to His Earthly Mission and then finally His completion of it. Therefore, the Water signifies His baptism by John, to which the Holy Spirit was witness, by His descent upon Jesus ( John 1:32,33). And the Blood signifies His shed Blood at the Cross, where Jesus said "it is finished...and gave up the Ghost" (or, released His Spirit), John 19:30.

    So, not only in the Gospel of John, but also in this his first epistle, we read of the Holy Spirit's witness & involvement; which witness could not be disputed, unlike some in John's day who were trying to dispute the truth of Jesus' Person & Work. In 1 John 5:6, the Spirit of Truth bore witness to Jesus' start & completion of His Work. In 1 John 5:7, we read of the Triune God bearing record in Heaven, and then in verse 8 (on Earth), three bear witness to Jesus' Mission.

    We do well to "receive the witness of men" & we are likely to be convinced. But "the witness of God is greater" ( 1 John 5:9), which must give us no room for any doubt & a certainty that all that Jesus has accomplished for us is fully accepted by those to whom the Spirit of God has been given.



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