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  • Donna Grace - 1 year ago
    Matthew 18:18

    I have never truly understood what this verse means. Can anyone help? I am seeking the Lord about it.
  • Duncan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Your words are taken serious with God and when you bind them in the name of Jesus it will be establish. You need to understand that we Christians are like the ambassador of a nation.

    our home is not here but we are here for a short stay while representing our kingdom with full authority. ( Matthew 28:19-20)

    And so, while we are here all authority has been given to us by Jesus and so when we speak and agreed on matters especially concerning the church of Jesus Christ it will be bind here on earth as well as in heaven.

    A good example has been given to us in the book of Ecclesiastes 5:4

    4When you make a vow to God, do not delay to fulfill it. He has no pleasure in fools; fulfill your vow.

    5It is better not to make a vow than to make one and not fulfill it.

    6Do not let your mouth lead you into sin. And do not protest to the temple messenger, "My vow was a mistake." Why should God be angry at what you say and destroy the work of your hands?

    7Much dreaming and many words are meaningless. Therefore fear God.

    Here you see God takes the word which you speak using your mouth seriously, so when you agree on something according to it his will God will also agree in heaven.

    So, i will leave you with That to ponder and be in prayers ask God for understand for wisdom is the principal thing and therefor in all your getting get understanding. (Provers 4:7)
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you Duncan.

    :-)

    I am prayerfully considering all the wise counsel from the brethren and am grateful.
  • T Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Matthew 18:18, notice Matthew 18:15-22, in context Matthew 18, look closely when reading loosed again Matthew 18:27,

    Looking up Matthew 18:18, in word breakdown in Strongs Exhaustive Concordance reference at bottom of page, "bind" translated 'deo' can mean pledge, marriage, or be in bonds, = Luke 13:16, context Luke 13, "loosed" translated 'luo' = break, destroy, dissolve, divorce

    both scriptures same words, in Greek.

    In the Old Testament, Daniel 3:5, "loose" translated 'shre' = to free, separate, unravel ( Thayer's Greek Lexicon a reference also in site, I use for comparison)

    James 1:5,

    Hopefully helpful in your study
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you

    :-)
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Donna, I agree with S Spencer's reply in the context of discipline for the purpose of repentance and forgiveness and keeping the sheep in the flock not having to cut off a hand or foot, or pluck out an eye, Matt. 18:8-9.

    This is just another view of Matt. 16:19 some say Peter was the only one Jesus gave the keys to but in Matt. 18, we see it was for all the disciples not just Peter. Jesus entrusted them to continue His work, and from them to us, that we see start in Acts 2.

    Jesus told Peter He will give him the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Luke 11:52 the key of knowledge, so these keys that were given to the disciples are the knowledge of the gospel of Jesus that will allow them and all who accept the good news, the way of entering the kingdom of heaven/God.

    The keys are thus the gospel message, the teaching from Jesus that will be conveyed by the Holy Spirit, which gives us access to the kingdom of God, salvation, and eternal life only by our Lord Jesus Christ and the grace of God. Those who reject the gospel, bound, are forbidden to enter the kingdom (resurrection of damnation) and those who accept the gospel, loosed, are permitted into the kingdom (resurrection of life).

    Eph. 2:5-6 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you

    :-)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Donna.

    I've noticed I've left out this info for more clarity in the way I interpret the verse.

    The Church is given responsibility or charge to present the Gospel and how it is received will be accounted for in Heaven.

    "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Matthew 16:19.

    God bless.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you

    :-)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Donna.

    We also see this mentioned in Matthew 16:18-19. "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    To answer your question.

    Let's take it from vs 15 of Matthew 18:15-18 'Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

    But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

    And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

    Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    ( If a person wrongs another, and refuses to repent, that person who was wronged should return with one or two others and then take the issue to the church or assembly. If repentance never happens, that person should be treated as an outsider.)

    The offender is binded by that offense if he doesn't repent.

    If the offender does repent he will be loosed.

    This is the keys mentioned in Matthew 16:19 "AND I WILL GIVE UNTO THEE THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN:" and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    To bind and to loose means

    to forbid by an indisputable authority and to permit by an indisputable authority.

    Bind=forbid.

    loose=Permit.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good Morning Donna.

    In this verse Jesus commands his followers to not commit murder, adultery, steal from others or give untrue statements about others. He is giving instructions about how we are to treat other people rightly. Verse 19 continues with the commands to honor one's parents and to love one's neighbor as we love ourselves.

    Jesus is referring to the ten commandments given to Moses along with the command to love our neighbors, which is from Leviticus 19:35. Leviticus 18 and 19 is more comprehensive than what Jesus says in these verses, but His words cover all of the commands God spoke in Leviticus concerning how to treat others with honesty, respect, integrity, and love.

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  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Sorry Donna,

    I mistakenly referred to Mt. 19:18.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Lol, it's ok! I would still appreciate any input you offer.



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