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  • Renee olson on Revelation 4 - 1 year ago
    Who are the 24 elders?
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Revelation 4 - 1 year ago
    i am never sure when I can quote people; I did once here and haven't been flagged as far as I know. Anyway; there are answers related to Revelation with the foundations and such that would indicate the 12 Patriarchs (for 12 tribes of Israel) as well as the 12 Apostles (sans Judas Iscariot) with the last either being Matthias or Paul. There are some things you can search online on the subject.

    It would seem that those who are kings and priests in Rev. 5:9-10 are those of the church and also those who are rewarded and receive crowns and are raptured. This is not; in my opinion all those confessing Christ at this time as some aren't truly saved and others may be left behind. That is controversial but even if they are raptured or martyred; the Tribulation saints will be overcomers and saved but some according to 1 Cor. 3:15 get in by the "skin of their teeth" and suffer loss. There are also specific crowns for various rewards; such as for martyrs; those patiently waiting for His coming; pastor/elder; etc.

    The exhortation of Revelation 3:11 is something I mention frequently. We can "lose a reward to another". The opposite may hold true as well; should we be teachable and desire to grow in the Lord discipled by more mature believers we may be able to gain heavenly rewards. We also gain treasures in heaven through investing our time; talents and monies to those truly serving the Lord.

    Anyway; have a blessed Sunday of worship..

    Agape. Rich P
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 4 - 1 year ago
    Hi Renee.

    We learn a lot about the 24 elders Revelation 5:9-10.

    And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast REDEEMED US TO GOD BY THY BLOOD out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

    And hast made us unto our God KINGS AND PRIESTS: and we shall REIGN ON THE EARTH.

    1) We know they were redeemed.

    2) They were made Kings and priests.

    3) They shall reign on earth.

    I believe this represents the Church.

    Here's why.

    They were redeemed out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation. Ephesians 1:7.

    They were made kings and Priests.

    1st Peter 1:9.

    These kings and Priests shall reign on earth.

    Revelation 1:5-6.

    And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

    And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Revelation 4 - 1 year ago
    Mark 10:40, Matthew 20:23, Matthew 22:44,

    Hopefully this is helpful



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