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WHAT IS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION spoken of by Daniel
Matthew 24:15 Therefore when YOU SEE the abomination of desolation; spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the HOLY PLACE (whosoever readeth, let him understand).
You are the HOLY PLACE, the temple of GOD.
Christ was talking to those around him, so this APPLIED to them, as well as us, it was AT HAND, near to be reality.
Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice (of animals) shall be TAKEN AWAY, and the abomination that maketh desolate SET UP, there shall be one thousand three hundred and thirty five days.
What is this 1,335 days? It's the changing of the COVENANTS, Christ coming as sinful flesh, and defeating
death; LIFE by Spirit, not blood.
Before the resurrection; LIFE was in the BLOOD, after the resurrecting, LIFE was from the Spirit.
Matthew 23:38 Behold your HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.
Man is THE HOUSE, now desolate without INHABITANT, it died on the cross.
Revelation 18:19 .....for in ONE HOUR (MAN, sinful fleshes death on the cross) is she made DESOLATE.
Revelation 17:17 ...and SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED ..
Psalms 69:25 Let their habitation (house) be DESOLATE; and NONE dwell in their tents.
Isaiah 5:9 ...of a truth many houses shall be desolate ....
Are you DESOLATE; or has the Spirit of LIFE COME TO YOU?
Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE in Christ Jesus, has made us FREE from the LAW of sin and death.
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose house you are ...
You died on the cross; and become DESOLATE, no LIFE, you were raised a body, a new creation, life no longer of the blood; but OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST, by the Spirit of our Father.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you ....
I believe it can be shown that the "abomination of desolation", the "man of sin" is Satan himself. The Holy Place in Matt 24 is the corporate representation of God's kingdom beginning at Pentecost, that is the local churches and congregations, after Christ went to the cross. What Matt 24 is teaching is there will come a time when God's judgement would come upon the church, i.e. the local churches and congregations, where by God's plan Satan would be allowed to rule in the churches and God has abandoned the churches because, like National Israel, they have gone away from the True Gospel and the Bible is no longer the authority. And True believers are commanded to come out of the churches. This is the Great Tribulation.
Read Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and all of the minor profits. They talk about what happened to National Israel and Juda and are also talking about what has and is taking place in the churches and congregations of our day. If you go into any church today you will find some element of a do-it-yourself gospel where there is something we can do or must do to become saved... accept Christ, become baptized, make confession of faith, trust implicitly in our confessions... then you are safe and secure. They do not accept the Truth that salvation is 100% the work of God.
Very sad but true.
So again, Christ spoke in parables and without a parable spoke He not. The Bible is replete with historical events that God placed in the Bible that occurred exactly as described. But they are historical parables teaching some aspect of the Gospel and God's plan for mankind. The Book of Ruth is a tremendous example.... a beautiful historical love story but with Boaz being a figure of Christ and Ruth the Moabites, a cursed woman being a figure of every true believer that Christ has saved... and much more as each verse is dripping with the Gospel when we understand how God has used specific words and phrases as we compare scripture with scripture.
I am aware that God's church rides the beast; and is a whore, and the firstborne are told to COME OUT OF HER.
I stopped going to a brick and mortar church long ago, when you go against "THERE TRADITION", they not so politely ask you to leave.
The church of OLD was the synagogue, a house built with man's hands, when the NEW was preached, a temple built without hands, that drove them out. It's no different today, most in the churches are still in THE STONING BUSINESS.
All this is the WORK'S of GOD, all things WORK TOGETHER for GOOD.
I'm not disagreeing with you, Mosses and the Prophets are all exact history; and you are right, inside that history is also prophecy, HIDDEN in parables and symbolism.
Some were physically destroyed in the Old; in the New, it's the carnal mind that has to be destroyed. If we don't come to truth, then we will see death, if truth prevails, then we will not see death.
Those that don't come to truth, will be raised back in their flesh, and judged by the ones that did come to truth, then they also will come to truth.
Isaiah 59:21 As for me (the Father) this is MY COVENANT with them (creation), saith the LORD, MY SPIRIT that is upon the (Jesus), and MY WORDS which I HAVE PUT in your mouth (Jesus), shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of THY SEED, nor out of the mouth of THY SEED'S SEED, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.
I agree; the man of sin is Satan, and he is sitting in those DESOLATE houses, the temple of God, the Holy Place, he does't believe Christ is THE LIFE on that HOUSE.
I'm very familiar with the major and minor prophets, I study them every day, most days, all day long.
Matthew 24:15 Therefore when YOU SEE the abomination of desolation; spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the HOLY PLACE (whosoever readeth, let him understand).
You are the HOLY PLACE, the temple of GOD.
Christ was talking to those around him, so this APPLIED to them, as well as us, it was AT HAND, near to be reality.
Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice (of animals) shall be TAKEN AWAY, and the abomination that maketh desolate SET UP, there shall be one thousand three hundred and thirty five days.
What is this 1,335 days? It's the changing of the COVENANTS, Christ coming as sinful flesh, and defeating
death; LIFE by Spirit, not blood.
Before the resurrection; LIFE was in the BLOOD, after the resurrecting, LIFE was from the Spirit.
Matthew 23:38 Behold your HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.
Man is THE HOUSE, now desolate without INHABITANT, it died on the cross.
Revelation 18:19 .....for in ONE HOUR (MAN, sinful fleshes death on the cross) is she made DESOLATE.
Revelation 17:17 ...and SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED ..
Psalms 69:25 Let their habitation (house) be DESOLATE; and NONE dwell in their tents.
Isaiah 5:9 ...of a truth many houses shall be desolate ....
Are you DESOLATE; or has the Spirit of LIFE COME TO YOU?
Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE in Christ Jesus, has made us FREE from the LAW of sin and death.
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose house you are ...
You died on the cross; and become DESOLATE, no LIFE, you were raised a body, a new creation, life no longer of the blood; but OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST, by the Spirit of our Father.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you ....
God Bless YOU!
I believe it can be shown that the "abomination of desolation", the "man of sin" is Satan himself. The Holy Place in Matt 24 is the corporate representation of God's kingdom beginning at Pentecost, that is the local churches and congregations, after Christ went to the cross. What Matt 24 is teaching is there will come a time when God's judgement would come upon the church, i.e. the local churches and congregations, where by God's plan Satan would be allowed to rule in the churches and God has abandoned the churches because, like National Israel, they have gone away from the True Gospel and the Bible is no longer the authority. And True believers are commanded to come out of the churches. This is the Great Tribulation.
Read Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and all of the minor profits. They talk about what happened to National Israel and Juda and are also talking about what has and is taking place in the churches and congregations of our day. If you go into any church today you will find some element of a do-it-yourself gospel where there is something we can do or must do to become saved... accept Christ, become baptized, make confession of faith, trust implicitly in our confessions... then you are safe and secure. They do not accept the Truth that salvation is 100% the work of God.
Very sad but true.
So again, Christ spoke in parables and without a parable spoke He not. The Bible is replete with historical events that God placed in the Bible that occurred exactly as described. But they are historical parables teaching some aspect of the Gospel and God's plan for mankind. The Book of Ruth is a tremendous example.... a beautiful historical love story but with Boaz being a figure of Christ and Ruth the Moabites, a cursed woman being a figure of every true believer that Christ has saved... and much more as each verse is dripping with the Gospel when we understand how God has used specific words and phrases as we compare scripture with scripture.
I am aware that God's church rides the beast; and is a whore, and the firstborne are told to COME OUT OF HER.
I stopped going to a brick and mortar church long ago, when you go against "THERE TRADITION", they not so politely ask you to leave.
The church of OLD was the synagogue, a house built with man's hands, when the NEW was preached, a temple built without hands, that drove them out. It's no different today, most in the churches are still in THE STONING BUSINESS.
All this is the WORK'S of GOD, all things WORK TOGETHER for GOOD.
God Bless YOU!
I'm not disagreeing with you, Mosses and the Prophets are all exact history; and you are right, inside that history is also prophecy, HIDDEN in parables and symbolism.
Some were physically destroyed in the Old; in the New, it's the carnal mind that has to be destroyed. If we don't come to truth, then we will see death, if truth prevails, then we will not see death.
Those that don't come to truth, will be raised back in their flesh, and judged by the ones that did come to truth, then they also will come to truth.
Isaiah 59:21 As for me (the Father) this is MY COVENANT with them (creation), saith the LORD, MY SPIRIT that is upon the (Jesus), and MY WORDS which I HAVE PUT in your mouth (Jesus), shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of THY SEED, nor out of the mouth of THY SEED'S SEED, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.
God Bless YOU as HE brings his creation to TRUTH.
I agree; the man of sin is Satan, and he is sitting in those DESOLATE houses, the temple of God, the Holy Place, he does't believe Christ is THE LIFE on that HOUSE.
I'm very familiar with the major and minor prophets, I study them every day, most days, all day long.
God bless YOU!
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