Bible Discussion Thread Page 2

Hi, is your position that everyone is saved regardless of their actions or who they follow, including satan? If so, that's not what the Bible says. The first verse you cited already limits who it is talking about. It's those who "know" the Lord. Presumably those who follow the Lord, which by definition is a Christian. A Christian must take action, by walking, following the footsteps, emulating Jesus. That is what we are called to do. If someone strongly does not want to do that then is he a real follower. Instead of being a sheep in the flock he might be a wolf. No verse says the wolves are saved. Most everyone will not be saved and will go to hell as Jesus says: Matthew 7:13. What a blessing that we were warned about this so many times through parables and other examples that we can choose accordingly. God bless.

Adam Gbu But remember Paul was a wolf and he was killing christians....He was a murderer....But God saved him....If God saved Paul a murderer he can save anybody....Paul was behind the stoning of Steven and others he mentions....There was none righteous no not one....Its that New Covenant at Calvary by his blood that saves folks....By the regeneration of the H.G....Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. That Child of Promise...our new hearts and new spirit... Titus 3:5...Not by works of righteousness which we have done but by his mercy he saved us...And the regeneration of the H.G...Which is the multiplication of Christ in us...via that good seed

And remember legion who had all the devils...But Jesus saved him anyway....Then he wanted to be desciple...ok gbu

The manmade doctrine of 100% everyone being "saved" is not only a serious misinterpretation of what the Bible says, but is a lie originating from satan himself. Satan wants people to deceived into believing this so they don't feel they need to obey God whatsoever. It's wrapped up in clever fallacies and false assumptions. All someone has to do to refute this manmade idea is to read the Bible. I'd rather listen to Jesus then a man. Both aren't right, so by definition one of these beliefs is untrue. Is it true that obeying God is "bad"? Is it likely that God wants you to defy him and do the opposite of what He says, or is it more likely that satan wants that? This sounds exactly like what satan would say.

Those twisting scripture to conform to a narrow cult manmade idea who accuse obedience to God as being "bad" would also be accusing Jesus of the same thing. John 14:15. Satan's signature is usually on pushing opposites of the truth, starting from the garden of eden.

Satan is clever and whenever I see his lies on a Bible site I will keep calling it out so no one else is deceived. Again, the antidote to this poison is actually reading the Bible, because it says so many times that following the law is GOOD. Obedience is GOOD. Following God is GOOD. Romans 6:15 Someone who claims to have freedom to commit any sin imaginable while having a free get out of hell card is exactly what Jesus warned about when He said depart from me. Matthew 7:22-23.

The false assumption and contradiction in the cult doctrine is that everything good is "works" and it's all "bad" meanwhile they don't call sinning as "bad" or "works". So, the assumption is doing any good is bad, and bad is good. Wow.

Alex I think its possible we've already discussed this topic before and your motives are between you and God. He knows your heart and whether you are following Him and believing in the truth. You will have to stand in front of Him like everyone else and account for every word you speak. God be with you.