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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 212445

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Marty Whitton on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    A Question... His word says without Holiness, we cannot see the Lord

    All men have sinned and come short of the glory of God. None doeth good, no not one. How, then, can I explain to an unbelieving lost soul how to attain Holiness in a way that can fully assure the gift of eternal life will be theirs.?
  • Alex1900 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Marty ...Tell your friend that Jesus has died for him at Calvary making a new covenant in his blood for all men....I was found of them that sought me not and made manifest unto them that asked not after me.... Romans 10:20...And this Jesus wants to know him, sowing a good seed in his heart...That is gonna result in a birth of a Baby Christ in him...which is the Child of Promise the H.G...Thats y he has to know us, even in the spiritual realm a birth requires a spritual seed....An intimacy

    ......Thats y Peter said being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the word of God that liveth and abideth forever...The living word which is spirit and life...Thus there is a new heart and a new spirit in our near future...Which is true Holiness....Thats y the woman in Rev 12 :5...is giving birth to the manchild the H.G. that Child of Promise...Which is the regeneration and multiplication of Christ Jesus via his seed the word...ok....That was the great Promise when God swore by himself Gen 22:17...That Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....Thus the sower and his precious seed...An Israel of God... Gal 6:16....And the Children of PROMISE....The Kingdom....Unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child impling that new birth you will in no wise enter there in...There is not a day that goes by that i don't thank GOD for what he did at Calvary...That N.C. by his blood....That all inclusive Covenant....I will know them all from the least to the greatest....And they shall all be taught of God... Jeremiah 31:34....If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me...Even as Moses lifted up a serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of man be lifted up... John 3 :14....Every one who beheld that bronze Serpent lived, their snake bite was not fatal...The spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death... Romans 8 :2....sometimes we get bit but our snake bite is not fatal if we behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world. gb
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Marty. This Hebrews 12:14 verse is written to Christians (of mainly Jewish origin), to pursue not only peace with all men (not just Christians), and lest they think that a peaceable state of living is sufficient to gain God's pleasure in them, the writer says, "and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord".

    So how to explain this to an unbeliever? An unbeliever may have some opinions, but usually 'holiness' is beyond their understanding. When sharing the Gospel with him, the whole focus must be on our sinfulness, our wretched hell-bound state before God & nothing we can ever do could make that great payment that would absolve us from all guilt & judgement. I'm sure you have shared the Gospel in this way, with supporting Scriptures, but he may ask, 'what then - what comes after I confess my sin & sinful state & receive God's forgiveness based on His Son's paying the price I couldn't pay?'

    The next step for a new believer is to be baptized: a public testimony to both himself before God & to others that he has left his old sinful life & choosing to be bound to Jesus Christ through His death & resurrection, identifying only to him. He is then taught more & more from the Word, especially focussing on the Gift of the Holy Spirit which is given to all who are joined to Christ, sealing them as God's precious children. The Holy Spirit is not an inactive force or a feeling a believer must have, but He is the very presence of God within him that will accomplish all of God's Will in him & through him. And one of the very first things that will be preeminent in the heart & life of this believer, is the Holy Spirit's moving in Him to be Christ-like; i.e. dealing with sin, yearning God-wards, new hopes, new driven life - all demonstrating the sanctifying Work of the Spirit. 'Holiness' then, is the 'sanctified life': the separated life (accomplished by God & pursued by the believer). If he has no desire to pursue it, his salvation is spurious & eternal life absent.
  • Mel8 - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    John 14:6 . There is only one way to God , the unbeliever must come to the Truth and come to it through Christ . Christ is our righteousness , Revelation 3:20 . There is no other way .
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Marty Whitton:

    Christ died for all men, while they were yet in their sins.

    ALL MEN died on the cross with Christ, because Christ DIED for ALL MEN.

    Christ was RAISED back to LIFE by the spirit of our Father; therefore ALL MEN were raised back to Life, because Christ was raised back TO LIFE.

    All men now have the LIFE of the Father, the SPIRIT being the LIFE, instead of blood being the LIFE.

    God is HOLY, therefore ALL MEN are HOLY, because the LIFE in them is HOLY.

    Christ has done the WORK, the problem is man want believe, THAT WORK: they want to ADD to that WORK by saying it up to man to accept that work or reject that work.

    Does man's rejection nullify the WORK, most will say YES, but how can it be nullified when IT'S ALREADY DONE?

    Since Christ IS IMMORTAL LIFE, and Christ is the LIFE IN YOU, man has eternal LIFE.

    God Bless YOU!



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