Bible Discussion Thread

True Believers in Jesus are not appointed to wrath! 1 Thes 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which (delivered) us from the wrath to come. The word (delivered) is #4506; it means to rush or draw (for oneself) rescue. Believers in Jesus are rescued from the wrath to come, which means it has not happened when the church, or elect are called to meet the Lord in the clouds. Jn 3:36 tells us if we believe in the Son we will have everlasting life. But those who believeth not the Son will not see life, but have the wrath of God abideth on them. Romans 5:9 Tells us being now justified by his blood, we shall be (saved) from wrath through him. The word (saved) is #4982; it means "safe" to save, i.e. deliver or protect, preserve, be (made) whole. Remember Luke 17:34-37 where we are told one shall be taken, and the other left. And Wherefore the (body) is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. The word (body) is #4983; it means the body (as a sound whole) "safe" to save, i.e. deliver or protect. The word (body) here has pretty much the same meaning as those who are (saved) from the wrath to come. 1 Thes 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to (wrath) The word (wrath) is #3709; it means violent passion, or [justifiable] abhorrence, by implying punishment, anger, indignation, vengeance, wrath. (God pours out His wrath, His violent passion, His punishment on those non-believers in Jesus Christ spoken of in Jn 3:36 who were left on the earth). Eph 5:6 and Col 3:6 tell us He pours His wrath on the children of disobedience. The word (disobedience) is #543; it means disbelief, (obstinate and rebellious) unbelief. While this violent passion is being poured on the children of disobendence on the earth. True Believers in Jesus were caught up to meet Him in the clouds and taken to the marriage supper of the Lamb. The tribulation period has nothing to do with the wrath of God, they are two very different time periods. Blessings.

You're on the prayer side now Jimbob, ill pray Love u in Christ

Dear Jim in peace I understand what you mean. And you have scriptures for what you say. It's something that's forgotten in your writing. Which is also very significant. A sleeping spirit has come over the believers in the worlds who adhere to these words you write. First of all. We are in the last hours. We can't get past that. Paul and the other apostles also understood this. They thought that they were going to be picked up at any time. Surely they were in the end when they died. The dead in Christ will first be resurrected. Thessalonians 4:16 After that, it is clear that we are to be uprooted we/thouse who live when He comes. Thessalonians 4:17 I don't understand that anyone can manage and change this into a romantic event. When He comes again, the world we know is over. The world of obstacles, the world of temptations, the world that He has destined for His time. Do we only know in terms that the world has only evil in it.

It is only when we can appear before the throne of grace with our hearts that we feel that God is near.

Then there will be a great apostasy. 2 Thessalonians 2:5-12. We must go to the Book of Revelation to move forward. But as many believers believe, nothing can be taken out of this book. I guess that's the whole Word of God. Revelation 20:1-6 or whole chapter. John he sees what is true.

Paul meant and encouraged the Thessalonians with the words he wrote to them. For when we die, all believers will go to Jesus. We are the ones who die in Christ. Revelation 19 and 20 chapters, one can get an understanding of it all. To the end, there will not be a single believer on earth. And let's hope, however, that the last man of faith has the Holy Spirit with him. We can't believe we're going to be taken away, not until the last man! There will be harder and bad times. Also in terms of richness and money. Finally, the day comes when we MUST receive a chip to go online, to pay bills, to buy food and mm.

Love you all. Stay close to the word of God