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"And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him." 1 John 2:28-29
"Abide" is an action. Some translations say "continue" or "remain" or "keep" in Him. This makes it seem like its a choice and freewill to follow Jesus. That it won't be forced upon you against your will, or that it won't be done for you.
"He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4 KJV
Some say those who already know and follow Jesus have no choice but to be perfect and sinless and don't need to do anything, can even love the world, ( 1 John 2:15) but is that true?
"If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" 1 John 1:6 KJV
Some people assume they are Christians and Christ followers- saved and done and don't have to do anything, because book of life, and all that stuff, right? They think they can stop following Christ and have fun in the world and still get invited to heaven. But the above verse makes it conditional, if you do this, then... But another if... 1 John 1:9.
2 Peter 3:17 - How could someone who already assumes he's saved fall from his secure position like this verse says?
2 Peter 3:14 - It says to make an effort to be spotless and blameless, but some people are claiming that effort is bad, and not making effort is good. So one side is true and one side is false. Man vs. God's word. Who will I choose to believe?
Adam, Please notice something about all the verses you referenced. None are written by your apostle Paul. John and Peter were not sent to Gentiles, see Matt Ch 10 and 15. Paul was sent to gentiles with the gospel of the grace of God. The Bible does teach falling away in these verses and many others (see Hebrews) Paul our apostle NEVER teaches any possibility of loosing our salvation. John and Peter were sent to Israel preaching the gospel of the kingdom. The Bible must be rightly divided to be properly understood. You can't read yourself into the books of Peter and I John. They are not doctrine for the body of Christ today in this age. These books are for our learning as all scripture is, but they are not addressed to us today in this mystery age. Read Paul our apostle for doctrine for the body of Christ.
There is one main fulfillment I have received from God's Word, and that is our Farther is not the God of confusion, but of peace!
I would like to say, thank you Yahavah (Ahavah) for giving us the translators that translated your Word in English as a novel with the 'Four Ws' for each chapter so it could be easily understood. I find it to be so easy to understand, when 'rightly divided' that it can be read and taught with peace. Reading and teaching 'verse by verse' and 'chapter by chapter.'
"And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him." 1 John 2:28-29
"Abide" is an action. Some translations say "continue" or "remain" or "keep" in Him. This makes it seem like its a choice and freewill to follow Jesus. That it won't be forced upon you against your will, or that it won't be done for you.
"He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4 KJV
Some say those who already know and follow Jesus have no choice but to be perfect and sinless and don't need to do anything, can even love the world, ( 1 John 2:15) but is that true?
"If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" 1 John 1:6 KJV
Some people assume they are Christians and Christ followers- saved and done and don't have to do anything, because book of life, and all that stuff, right? They think they can stop following Christ and have fun in the world and still get invited to heaven. But the above verse makes it conditional, if you do this, then... But another if... 1 John 1:9.
2 Peter 3:17 - How could someone who already assumes he's saved fall from his secure position like this verse says?
2 Peter 3:14 - It says to make an effort to be spotless and blameless, but some people are claiming that effort is bad, and not making effort is good. So one side is true and one side is false. Man vs. God's word. Who will I choose to believe?
I would like to say, thank you Yahavah (Ahavah) for giving us the translators that translated your Word in English as a novel with the 'Four Ws' for each chapter so it could be easily understood. I find it to be so easy to understand, when 'rightly divided' that it can be read and taught with peace. Reading and teaching 'verse by verse' and 'chapter by chapter.'
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