Bible Discussion Thread

Another comparison of 2 Bibles. The KJB and the Niv.

1st the KJB.

( Ps. 10:4-5) v4 Tells us the subject is "The wicked" v5 Tells us "His ways are always grievous".

The word (grievous) is #2342; it means to pervert, pained, (be) sorrow (-ful) travail (with pain) tremble, be wounded.

2nd the Niv.

( Ps. 10:4-5 Niv) v4 the Niv says "In his pride the wicked does not seek him; In all his thoughts there is no room for God".

v5 Tells us "His ways are always prosperous". The Niv is saying the ways of the wicked are always (prosperous).

Now seeing as God is not the author of confusion, ( 1 Cor. 14:33) The word (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant.

Which of these verses or Bibles would you trust?

And once again ( Proverbs. 30:5-6) v6 seems to be proving the Niv to be a liar.

How many of you put your trust in someone who lies to you?

Blessings.

Dear all, peace and joy to you all.

If I receive from a human being a lie. My heart becomes very skeptical of this person. But if, on the other hand, this person apologizes, I must forgive.

Over the years, I've seen some translations that don't always sound good in my heart. - I didn't want that translation then. The problem is that I know others buy it and read and GET confusion. We know where this comes from! The worst thing here is knowing that others are reading fictional things. And believe in it. Today, many people also believe in myths and fairy tales, so one wonders where humanity is headed. We Christian know that there are only two ways. A leads to Heaven and the way of the denier and liar leads to perdition. So for eternity, is just a divide on two roads. We should all know if we're liars like Jimbob is talking about here. It is an advantage for us who confess Jesus that we have received the gift of the Holy Spirit so that we will recognize the liar!

For my part, I have two same Bibles, KJ. but to two different years. Only ten years in between. Here the translators have managed to change the sets. I have to say it annoys me. Because I can also really put my finger right on what's changed. In any case, if a setting is easier to read and understand, why should translators change it so that it becomes heavy and difficult to understand. If it is a copyright to God's Word, it is a desperate situation! So I hope stinginess and greed haven't gotten there.

Remember, it still is a reason why not all Jews have had Scripture revealed to them yet. I'm not saying this to cause offense. But that is the reality of God's Word. The Word SHALL lead to salvation. Revelation and the Truth SHALL be forthcoming. Practice by the Holy Spirit we will get this right in the end hopefully.

Stay strong in the word of God for your own sake. And go on admonishing and directing if anyone has asked for it. Then there will be peace. Love u all in Christ.

Romans 3 chapter

Again; there are verses in Psalms as to the wicked prospering where God shows their ultimate end (See Psalm 73:22). We could also look to the book of James on the gold and silver rotting in the last days; or Christ's warnings about the rich man who built more barns for himself; or Lazarus and the rich man in the afterlife. Many wicked become prosperous; and if our treasure is not in heavenly places we are setting ourselves up for disaster. It does seem like an odd translation.

The other thing to keep in mind is that Greek often has multiple meanings which cannot be put into the English language without it seeming choppy. I'm not sure about Hebrew; but of course there can be multiple manuscripts. Keep in mind also that the Geneva Bible and Tyndale came out BEFORE KJV and perhaps there are African translations much older than that which are available to us today. Also old English can have different words than we are used to with modern language that may seem to have a different meaning.

Richard H Priday thank you for your comment. This is a comparison of these verses only. Both cannot be Truth! If we Believe the Words of the LORD are pure and preserved words for ever, like ( Ps. 12:6-7) promises they will be then we do have those pure preserved Words somewhere today. If not the Word of God would be a lie. Thats not possible, God cannot lie! It doesn't matter if other translations are older than the KJB, if God preserved His Words for ever then whatever was used for that pure, preserved translation are the ones that were and are Inspired by God. The KJB took 7 years to translate, ( Ps. 12:6) The words of the LORD is the subject in this verse and it tells us "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth ((purified seven times)). A (time) in the Bible is 1 year (purified seven times is purified 7 years the exact time period it took to translate the KJB) 7 years! The KJB is in perfect alignment with the Original languages. All the modern versions take that away by changing their words, they also remove complete verses.

Here's a good example of them leaving out a verse.

The KJB in ( Mk. 15:28) Tells us "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors"

The Proof of the fulfillment of this verse is from ( Isaiah. 53:12)

The Niv removed ( Mk. 15:28) completely.

A verse that is showing us, and also is proof of scripture being fulfilled is removed by the Niv.

Why would they remove that verse if their words are Inspired by God? Their words are perverted, they are changed which makes them words of men that are not Inspired by God. If we Believe in God then how can we not Believe God's Words are True? Every Word of God is pure. ( Ps. 12:6-7) ( Proverbs. 30:5-6) Add thou not unto his words.

( Rev. 22:18-19) The penalty for adding to and taking away from God's Words is very severe.

Thank you for your comment Richard. Blessings.