Bible Discussion Thread

Our present reality

It is sobering to look at the history of great kingdoms such as Rome and the eventual downfall by corruption within. I have read about many similar events as to today in America that caused Rome to fall; such as many government type handouts; and of course licensiousness sexually. There is even a theory about the verse Luke 17:27 that there may have been same sex unions in the past that is being referred to.

Certainly Sodom and the surrounding cities shows a similar pattern to today. We should take note of Lot there; who decided to settle originally in the fertile plain; allowing appearances with his eyes to be what drove his decision to move there in the first place; while Abraham sought a better country as it were; and had promises not fulfilled in his lifetime through his progeny. The same concept of course brought Moses out of Egypt to wander in the wilderness for 40 years in what should have been a journey of a few months.

The pride that came before the fall of course is a sin associated with sodomy amongst other things. As I alluded to previously; the first seal of Revelation comes before war; famine and pestilence; a false peace confirmed with many according to Daniel 9:27. There has not been a mesmerizing orator since the time of Hitler and perhaps Mousallini in World War two that was able to conquer so quickly; gone are the Napoleans of the past. As Daniel states in chapter 8; verse 23 rulers will become completely wicked in that time when Antichrist; a man of intrigue arises. The one world religion will also promote the one world government. Through peace he shall destroy many ( Daniel 8:25). With world economies dissolving; and the removal of the ancient landmarks ( Prov. 22:28); no doubt he will realign the nations when he "divides the land for gain" ( Dan. 11:39) and that with the help of a "strange god."

Some think we can tough it out in the Tribulation. Let's not be there if we can avoid it!!

Agape.

Richard H Priday We are living some interesting times today, and the Bible tells us everything that will happen as if we were reading tomorrows news paper. This is a timeline as I see things happening today and in the near future, if you dont mind Richard. The prophecies of the Word of God are being fulfilled daily. I see us as being very close to the great tribulation starting. I think that's the last 3 1/2 year time period which God has promised to shorten for the elect's sake. I do believe we will be here for great tribulation, and like I said I think it will be soon. You said a false peace was confirmed with many during ( Dan. 9:27) This verse does not say its a peace treaty. It does say he will confirm a covenant with many for one week. This is the antichrist confirming this covenant for 7 years but it doesn't say the 7 years will be completed. God will shorten that last 3 1/2 years for the elect's sake. I believe the first 3 1/2 years are the beginning of sorrows in ( Mt. 24:4-12) I do believe we have been living in it for what I would say is 2 to 3 years. So what I see is the great tribulation period about to start but its going to be shortened for the elect's sake. I don't see any 7 year time period written definitively that could not be shortened by ( Mt. 24:21-22) The great tribulation time period is what God shortens. That is the last 3 1/2 years. ( Dan. 9:27) Tells us "in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate" (In the midst of the week is half way, 3 1/2 years into it) In ( Mt. 24:15,21,22) v15 ""When ye therefore see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, whoso readeth, let him understand;") (This is the Half way point) v21-22 "For then shall be great tribulation" The last 3 1/2 year time period is great tribulation, thats when Satan is cast out of heaven to the earth ( Rev. 12:7-9) Blessings Richard.