Bible Discussion Thread

Would you use the name in psalm 83:18 to pray?

have you or do you use this name to pray?

or who do you pray to?

Hello MountHoreb

Jesus taught His disciples to pray (and ask things for) to our Father in Heaven in His name. So we should pray to our Father in Jesus Christ's name. Of course we can use all those names that we read in the Old Testament, but neither Jesus nor the apostles called God anything else than Father, they never used any other name.

But it is good to have some knowledge about those names like YAHWEH etc. I am sure John P has done a good research.

GBU

That's the way brother.

I also like what Christ told the disciples, when asked. 'Our Father which art in heaven, etc:'

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hava'

haw-vaw'

or havah {haw-vaw'}; a primitive root (compare ''avah' (183), 'hayah' (1961)) supposed to mean properly, to breathe; to be (in the sense of existence):--be, X have.

MountHoeb, I think you will find this to be a very interesting, ongoing subject. God bless.

Good morning MountHoreb,

I think I have bit off more than I can chew. You have to either have a Companion Bible or be able to read the Hebrew, the acrostic.

E. W. Bullinger was probably one of the greatest biblical scholars of the 1800s. He died in the early 1900s.

The Companion Bible has one hundred and ninty eight appendixes. I will make the remark about him beginning a great scholar for reason, that Goldstein, (keeper of the Massorah) binging of his time, would let him and one other person in the world proof read the "Massorah". The person besides Bullinger was in Asia. They made only minor changes. I think 'two' I believe.

So reading in Esther 1:20, 1, 'It' 2, 'and-all', 3, 'the-wives', 4, 'shall-give'. Meaning, 1, H-- 2, V--3, H--4, Y. Turn it around for the English, and it reads, 1,2,3,4. YH-VH. I do believe, after they 'added the 'A', the words would be YAH-VAH.

? God's speed.

MountHoreb,

I believe I have read that archeology has only found proof of the written language of the Hebrew people as far back as 1000 BC. I have 'heard' by the voice of a man that there were no 'Vs' in the early 'block' Hebrew language. So I can assume that modern man has come up with 'Yahweh." When Moses received the Ten Commands, He said to God, 'what am going to say', when the people ask, 'who sent me'? God answered,

'I Am that I Am. The ditopology of I Am that I Am in the Hebrew is 'E H Y H' or the name spelled in English, J e H o Y a H.

There is not a 'J' in the Hebrew alphabet, so The Divine Name is spelled Y e H o Y a H.

According to E. W. Bullinger's, Companion Bible (KJV) God's Divine Name was hidden 'Five times' in the book of Esther. Two times forward, two times backward, and one time I Am that I Am. The reason it was hidden was to protect the bloodline of Christ. Each time it is hidden in the Acrostic, it should be in all capital letters, such as Esther 1:20, "ALL THE WIVES SHALL GIVE."

There is a lot to be understood here.

MountHoreb,

I do not use it. I use 'Yahavah. I do know that this rendering is locked in 5 times in the acrostics in the book of Esther.

Thanks for responding. I'm sure you've done your research.

Psalm 83:18 is a strong conviction for me.

sometimes people may go for

years saying someone name not quite exactly. however, the person gets the point

because they may be close enough. but when you really know the person personally,

knows his likes and dislikes. and you have a close bond with that person. then

the name and how it's pronounced by a loved one may not be such a big deal.

James 4:8. The truth of a name is always soon corrected and the person may later

get the point.

I'm not sure if I've ever seen Yahavah before. can you show me where the particular verse in the book of Esther.

I know Yahweh (YHWH/) is Jehovah in Hebrew. Thank