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  • Trudy Jordan - 1 year ago
    Is there a pre tribulation rapture mentioned in the bible
  • John P - In Reply - 1 year ago
    No!!
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Trudy Jordan

    Here are a few verses that pre-tribulation rapture believers use to prove a pre-tribulation rapture.

    ( 1 Thessalonians. 4:15-17) There are 3 things to look at in these verses.

    (1) v16 says "with the ((trump)) of God. (a trumpet sounds)

    (2) v17 says "we shall be caught up to meet the Lord ((in the clouds)) (The Lord comes in the clouds)

    (3) v17 also says "we shall be caught up ((together)) with them" (There is a gathering together)

    Now a look at ( Mt. 24:29-31)

    (1) v31 Tells us "a great sound of ((a trumpet))"

    (2) v30 Tells us "and they shall see the Son of man ((coming in the clouds))"

    (3) v31 Tells us "they shall ((gather together)) his elect".

    (4) v29 Tells us when this happens "Immediately ((after)) the tribulation"

    There is no pre-tribulation rapture mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

    The Lord comes (in the clouds) with a great (sound of a trumpet) to (gather together) His elect

    "Immediately after the tribulation".

    Not before!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Trudy,

    Would you mind sharing your view on the rapture, please?

    Thank you!
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Trudy,

    You can check what Jesus said in Matt. 24, Mark, 13, and Luke 21.

    You can check what Paul said in 2 Thess. 2 to see the sequence of events he gives that is the same that Jesus gave.

    From what I have read, I have not found one verse that states explicitly that there will be a pre-trib rapture, but the sequences given by Jesus and Paul are explicitly stated and do not mention such an event as the pre-trib rapture.
  • David0921 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    One other thing Trudy Jordan,

    Matthew 24 and Mark 13 speak about the Great Tribulation, Christ's return, and the Rapture of True Believers. It can be shown, I believe, that we are currently living in the period of God's plan for this world that He calls the Great Tribulation spoken about in these chapters.

    There is only ONE Rapture of believers and it occurs, as we read in Matthew 24:29, "IMMEDIATELY after the tribulation of those days". And that is referred to in the Bible as "the Last Day".
  • David0921 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Great question Trudy Jordan,

    The Bible is clear that the Resurrection and Rapture of all True Believers that God has saved throughout the history of the world will occur at the Last Day. ( John 6:39,40,44,54). This is when Christ will return to complete the salvation of all whom He has saved by giving them their resurrected Spiritual Bodies in which they will live with Christ eternally in the new heavens and new earth, which He will create as He destroys this sin cursed earth. This is also when God's Final Judgement will occur on all of the unsaved. The Rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. Read also Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21.



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