Bible Discussion Thread

Hi once more Brother Dan , I respect your beliefs totally so I shan't labour my point any more after this post . Just to answer your statement about the ressurection of the just and of the unjust , who are they ? My belief is that the ' unjust ' are they ( Christians ) who knew their masters ( God or Jesus ) will and didn't do it . Luke Ch 12 V 47+48 . Matthew Ch 25 V 31-46 again :) , John Ch 9 V 39-41 . I shall not bother you again on this subject . Thanks for your time and I enjoyed our discussion .

lemme ramble a bit about the just and the unjust....Jesus said that which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit..... Romans 9:8.... Flesh and blood are not the Children of God.....Its only the Children of Promise that are counted for that GOOD SEED....Who are the Children of Promise?... They are the gift of God the H.G.....Which is born of the spirit in US via his good seed...The LIVING WORD NOT THE WRITTEN WORD....As faith comes by hearing his good seed the living word that initiates a spiritual pregnancy.....B/C I have spoken these living words sorrows have filled your hearts a spiritual pregnancy ....A woman when she is in travail has sorrows but after the CHILD ( The H.G.) is COME HER SORROWS are turned into Joy... John 16:20.....The H.G. is he that is born of the spirit...The gift of God....An Israel of God.. Gal. 16:6...She brought forth aman child that is gona rule all nations Rev. 12 :5 kjv.....Which is the H.G. as no man can call Jesus the Christ without the H.G. that living word....Which is that Child of Promise that is gona be born in you....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME ME

Its only the living word the H.G. that testifies of Jesus....When he the spirit of truth is come he will testify of me which is the H.G.... John 15:22....Thats y we must be born again of an incorruptible seed that liveth and abideth for ever as Peter said....The living word which is spirit and life.....

..... John 5:39 .Thats y Jesus is saying Search the scriptures the written words in them you think you have eternal life but it is only them that testifies of me....Which is the H.G. THE LIVING WORD, that spirit of truth that testifies of me....Which is that New Covenant that he gave us by his blood at Calvary....The book in the right hand of the father that Jesus wrote with his own blood.....Whosoever was not found written in this book of life was cast into the lake of fire...As our God is a consuming fire..H.G. fire..

Jema,

Amen. Nice point about where these good works originate, and yes I agree that our good works originate from our faith, and our obedience to God, and so that ultimately our changed heart directs us to perform all things that are pleasing to Him. All glory goes to Him!

Philippians 2:13

"For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

God Bless You

Hi again Jema,

You asked the question about who I'm referring to regarding the "just and the unjust". The just are the ones who have heard The Gospel of The Kingdom by: Jesus Christ, and believe, accept, repent from their sin, ask for forgiveness, receive baptism, and strive to pick up their cross and follow Jesus Christ.

The unjust would be the opposite; they hear the Gospel of the Kingdom and refuse and don't believe, they fail to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and continue to live a worldly life in sin. Or alternately they hear it, believe it initially, and then fall away back into their world of sin.

The bible reinforces and insures that "Everyone that ever lived on this earth," will receive their own final Judgement.

Revelation 20:12

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Important: How were they judged? They were judged every man according to their works!!!! What??? Works??? Something we all need to really think about

GBU

Matthew Ch 25 V 31-46 again ! :) That's an excellent point about works and so many of Jesus's parables are about the kind of behaviour that he expects from us as Christians . I believe we all need to do what we can in this life to show the love of God to any and everyone who crosses our path , that can be done in very many ways , from donating to charity or even just listening to someone who needs someone to hear them . I guess these would be considered works ! However , I wouldn't even consider doing that sort of thing if I didn't first have some faith in God and in Jesus , that they were real , alive and watching me , I know the kind of behaviour that they expect from me and I now the kind of behaviour that they don't expect from me and I know that they know that I know :) . Faith comes first , without it we cannot please God , I believe that my faith causes me to DO things in a certain way . Is that what people call works ? Good question and a great point Brother Dan .

Jema:

We are the body of Christ; we were raised a joint heir with Christ, the Spirit of God that raised Christ is the LIFE in US, his body.

Everything that we do IS WORKS: but not OUR works, we will and do what God CAUSES us to do, EVERYTHING is HIS WORKS, we are just the instrument that God uses to do HIS WORKS.

Just as God created ALL THINGS, through JESUS; we do all works of God, through JESUS.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements and DO THEM.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (in you) that WORKETH both TO WILL and TO DO of his good pleasure.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth MY WORKS unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Jeremiah 51:20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war; for with thee WILL I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy the kingdoms ......

God bless you

For sure Landry , God uses all of us to fulfill His purposes , we see this especially in the Old Testament , and of course the same is true today . He puts us where He wants us to be and I'm sure I'm not the only one who can look back on their lives and see His workings in our lives and in the lives of those around us , Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven ! Amen to you :) .