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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 216702

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  • Jema - 1 year ago
    Can I ask a question of everyone ? I've heard a few people say that the anti-Christ will appear and proclaim himself that he is Christ , could this not mean that some one will present themselves as a saviour , not necessarily as Jesus Christ but as an inventor of something , or a scientist or a discoverer of a medical breakthrough ? Does anyone think that's possible ? There are so many evil things going on in science these days , people trying desperately to prove that we humans are the peak of evolution and that we can do anything that any God can do .
  • Landry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema:

    Your comment sums up antichrist.

    As David0921 said, there is only two kingdoms on earth, the Kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan.

    The Kingdom of God of God is the Spirit of TRUTH, LIFE and LIGHT: CHRIST.

    The opposite of Christ is antichrist.

    The kingdom of Satan, the spirit of deception, death, and darkness.

    It's not ONE antichrist in that kingdom, it begins with ALL men.

    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist; wherefore you have heard that it should COME, and even NOW already is it in the world.

    Most Christians confess that Christ came the first time in the flesh, FEW confess that he came the second time as the LIFE in the body of man.

    Christ is still on the earth in the FLESH, in YOU his body; YOU, sinful flesh DIED on the cross, ONLY Christ arose to indwell YOU, his flesh.

    John 16:8 And when he (the SPIRIT of Christ) is COME (Christ second coming as the Holy Ghost) HE (Christ) will reprove the WORLD OF SIN (unbelief).

    Colossians 1:27 ..... this mystery .... Christ in you ...... a NEW CREATION ......

    God bless you
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes , satan is a seducer , he tells lies and tells us what we want to hear , he uses smooth words and wants us to love and worship him and not God . This about sums up human arrogance and pride I think , especially the scientific community . Many scientists do actually believe that there must be a creator but most seek to out do God and prove themselves superior to Him . This is just my thoughts on the matter , we will know all things for sure one day . Until then may we all walk in love and learn from each other :) .
  • David0921 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema,

    The anti-Christ is Satan himself. Throughout history many have tried to identify the anti-Christ as some tyrant or other dastardly human being. But none of that fits when we understand that there are only two kingdoms that God is primarily concerned about. These two kingdoms are the Kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of Satan. And the warfare that exists between these two kingdoms is a Spiritual warfare. It is not national, political or social.

    All of mankind throughout history ultimately belongs to one of those two kingdoms.

    And much of the language that God uses in speaking about those two kingdoms is parabolic in nature.

    We must remember:

    Mark 4:9-13 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

    Mark 4:33,34 And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

    Psalms 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    When you say that he is satan himself , what form will be take ? If he looks like some horrific demon with horns and a pointy tail then I can't imagine anyone wanting to be on his side ! He's a seducer , he tells lies , he tells humans what they want to hear , he wants the glory due only to God . My guess is that he will take a man's heart just like he did to Judas and even to Peter briefly . He will look like one of us and present himself as some kind of saviour , he will have ' created ' something , something to do with life , health etc , something that will fool the unbelievers into thinking that God definately doesn't exist . An open vision of a monster isn't going to attract many followers , even atheists and idolaters wouldn't follow a monster . He's a wolf in sheep's clothing don't forget , he will invent something that gives him great glory and disproves ( or so he will think ) the existence of God . We shall all find out eventually if we are still alive . Thank you for your posts David , I always enjoy them , you are insightful and polite :) .
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 1 year ago
    David0921

    The antichrist is a man. He is called (that man of sin) and (son of perdition) in ( 2 Thess. 2:3).

    He is called (the beast) in ( Rev 13:1-5) v2 and v4 clearly tells us the dragon gave power to (the beast). They are not the same.

    In ( Rev. 19:20) (The beast) and the false prophet are cast Alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    In ( Rev. 20:1-3) Satan is bound for a thousand years. (The beast was just cast into a lake of fire).

    In ( Rev. 20:10) The devil is cast into the lake of fire and brimstone ((where (the beast) and the false prophet are)).

    They are not the same.

    Satan will possess him just like he did Judas Iscariot in ( Luke. 22:3) and in ( John. 13:27) as the 1st son of perdition ( John. 17:12) The only other time the words "son of perdition" is in the Bible is ( 2 Thess. 2:3)

    "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done, is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun" ( Ecclesiastes. 1:9)

    If the 1st son of perdition (Judas Iscariot) was possessed by Satan. then the 2nd son of perdition in ( 2 Thess. 2:3) who exalteth himself above all that is called God, and sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God ( 2 Thess. 2:4) will also be possessed by Satan.

    Truth matters.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    JESUS said to the Jews: John 5:43-47KJV:

    43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER(AN IMPOSTER - Who's is him?) shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

    Paul apostle prophesied about that IMPOSTOR, saying - 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 and 9 :

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (See Revelation 13:11-14)

    John 1:11KJV - JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not.

    Philippians 2:6 - 6 Who, being in the form of GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD:

    May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection

    Amen



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