Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • David0921 - 1 year ago
    What is our Authority?

    Each of us must make a decision regarding the Spiritual Authority for doctrine and practice in our life. That is, what constitutes the Word of God in which we trust and follow? Is it going to be the Bible Alone? Is it going to be the Whole Bible? Or is it going to be something more or something less than this.

    I believe that God very clearly put

    that choice to us as He completed the Bible.

    Revelation 22:18,19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    And there is no getting around the fact that if we are trusting in a vision or a voice or dream or a tongue that we believe is a direct communication from God Himself, we have a wider Authority than the Bible Alone.

    And that is a place I never want to be.
  • Pastor Ray - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Also tongues have ceased ( 1 Corinthians 13:8)
  • Pastor Ray - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I agree with your statement David, but I think we need to be more specific. I wont call you intoxicated like Frankie did, but I do believe that you are just ignorant to certain scriptures. By ignorant I'm using it as the Bible does in the sense of you just haven't been taught.

    So the Bible is the FINAL authority in the Christian life ( 2 Peter 1:19). I agree with Frankie that you need the Holy Spirit to discern the things of God in His word. The Bible clearly states that in 1 Peter 1:11-12. The Bible also says that we need a preacher, because how can we hear without one ( Romans 10:14). So the Bible was given by the Holy Spirit/God and needs to be discerned through that, because the Bible is of no private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20-21). God had a specific meaning for each word and only He can tell us what that is.

    I also believe what the Bible says in Acts 2:17 that in the last days people will prophesy, have dreams, and visions. If the Bible says it, then it's true. That being said, since the Bible is the final authority, if anything they say happened in the prophesy, dream, or vision that goes against the Bible, then it's a false dream.

    Here's how to discern if they are truly a "prophet" in the sense of them prophesying, dreaming, and having visions:

    1. Does it follow scripture ( 2 Peter 3:16)

    2. Look at their fruits ( Matthew 7:15-20)

    3. It doesn't breed confusion ( 1 Corinthians 14:29-33)

    4. It is of the Holy Ghost/Jesus ( 1 Corinthians 12:1-3, John 16:13-15)

    I hope this was a help to you and there is definitely more studying that can go into this, but that's about the summary of this.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    hi Ray

    2 Pet 1:19 does not refer to the letter, Peter explains it further 2 Pet 1:20,21 the Spirit, the Light John 1:9 Titus 2:11 is 2 Cor 4:6,7 the sure Word of Prophecy within us, by the Spirit of Prophecy Rev 19:10 the testimony of Jesus Christ

    The rule & guide of a Christian life.

    Friend consider;

    Here on this site is evidence enough, all the different opinions concerning the meaning of the Scriptures, where are all these opinions coming from? Is Christ divided?

    Where as if everyone would be led by His Spirit, He speaks the same thing to all, according to their measure of Grace received, yet it's the same word according to each one's measure.

    Acts 2:1 Acts 4:32 this is the fruits we shall see when its Christ who speaks, bringing His church to the Ephesians 4:13

    The Spirit alone can accomplish this. John 17:21-23 1Cor 6:17 1Cor 12:13

    in love & truth

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  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Friend

    Your in my thoughts, may the Lord strengthen you!
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    to be more precise,

    Helpful for little babes, Hebrews 5:12-14
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes, His Spirit

    the Rule & Guide of a Christian life

    Who inspired the holy men of God to write the Bible, which the Bible points to as the Giver of all Life, that we may freely become partake of the Life of Christ, that we may possess a personal intimate relationship with our Father though His Son Jesus Christ, who will cleanse us from all sin that we may become sons of God, by which God by His Spirit makes all these thing possible.

    1Cor 15:45 Job 33:4 Rom 8:9 John 10:10

    The letter can not do this & was not given to do this. Meaning the Strong Concordance or what wherever else their is out there, it maybe helpful to the little children, but its not necessary, man have put them in the place of His Spirit in discerning the things of God.,..

    For the Spirit is given for this very purpose to guide, convict, teach, comfort & counsel us. Jesus states, John 16:7

    He bringing us into the very Life of God the Scriptures give witness too, that all the holy men & women of God enjoy by His Spirit

    John 3:27 God,

    For the Father seeketh such to worship Him, meaning being led by His Spirit & Truth in all things that pertaineth to this life & without His Spirit leading us nothing is acceptable to Him. Jesus said that I only say & do as the Father reveals it to Me, our Forerunner

    David,

    The Spirit will always point to the Life of Christ as our Example, John 17:17-19 meaning the words God's Spirit led Him to say & do, sanctifies Him & us. 1John 2:6 1John 4:17 & will alway align Himself to the Scriptures which He, Himself inspired, along with mans nobler part, "sound reasoning". His Spirit bearing witness with our spirit.

    This is not against Scriptures, by no means, but fulfills them, we can't understand the truth imported by them, without the One who inspired them as Scripture plainly reveals 1Cor 2:9-14.

    Job 32:8

    You keep making these dogmatic statements, contrary to the Scriptures you point too!

    Friend, your intoxicated. Rev 17:2 Rev 18:3,4

    in L & T



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