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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 218177

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  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Is it selfish to guard your heart?

    Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. ( Proverbs 4:23).

    Normally I prefer KJV (and after all that is the focus here) but in this case I prefer the word "Guard" to begin the sentence found in several other versions. In the case of dying to self; and focusing all our energies into serving the Lord several statements below may seem to contradict behaviors normally associated with being a Christian.

    Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm: for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave: the coals thereof are coals of fire, which hath a most vehement flame. ( Song of Solomon 8:6).

    Granted; the whole book of Song of Solomon is focused on the story of human love but surely we can glean some meainings from this book which is included in the accepted Canon (although probably the most reluctantly by the early church). In any case; our God is a jealous God; and we can also apply this to the Spirit which contends against the flesh ( Gal. 5:24).

    Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. ( Matt. 7:6).

    This can perhaps be best understood in conjunction with the admonition in Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. ( 1 Tim. 5:22). There are several meanings for laying on of hands which could relate to delegating a promotion of church office or imparting spiritual gifts (I would suggest both would happen simultaneously). In any case; within the house of God we must be discerning enough to recognize those with bad fruit who are going to take whatever they have and use it for nefarious purposes. We also need to be careful that we aren't tempted by the sins of others who wer are attempting to help; whether by reason of our own weaknesses or those who are devious enough to entice us or unwary victims of Satan.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Richard, I was just thinking the other day about what Scriptures say about putting a guard on our eyes, lest we look upon evil, or guarding our heart, lest we stray from our love of God to love other things that cannot satisfy as God can.

    So this verse in Proverbs is a good one to learn from. I like what Giannis quoted from the Septuagint (Greek) about with all guarding guard your heart. This is very strong statement that instructs us to use all methods we have in our spiritual armory to guard our heats from the enemy who desires to destroy our faith, kill us, and rob us of what is good and dear to us. The malevolence of the enemy is unquenchable and the deceptions he can employ are quite varied. The sins we can be tempted by are so vast in number. We need to know our enemy and also the wickedness of our own sinful nature so that we can realize that the battle to guard our hearts will use ALL things that the Holy Spirit has equipped us with to set this guard strongly around our hearts so as to overcome whatever evil desire that would spring from our sinful nature or come before our senses. It takes practice and determination to change sinful habits of the mind and heart as well as the flesh, and above all, it takes submission to the Holy Spirit as Jesus always was in His humanity.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi again Richard.

    About Matth. 7:6.

    I have been taught that this has to do with talking about our faith and tell our testimonies to people who we know or find out that they will behave like dogs or pigs. In such case we stop talking and go away. There is no benefit in talking to such people as long as they stay like that. If the change then yes, but not for the time being.

    About Timothy 5;22, what I know is about laying hands to people who are not proper for a ministry because they are not really spiritually clean . Laying hands has to do, apart from other things, with anointing a deacon, an elder, a pastor or a minister or to acquire a gift like it was done to Timothy. If those people commit sins all the time and one has anointed them with light heart, then it is like partaking in their sins.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Richard.

    The Septuagint has it as " By all guarding guard your heart..." I don't know if this proper English but it is as written.

    Similarly my Bible says the same, which is based on the Masoretic.



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