Bible Discussion Thread

looking at the conversation of angel Gabriel to both Zacharias and Mary, we see that Mary is actually a carrier of grace .The word of the lord says I will have mercy on whom i will have mercy on. Both Mary and Zacharias did doubt the message of God but only Zachariah was punished, it was only when Mary received confirmation of how the child was going to be conceived that her faith or believe came into work. Let's take a look at verse 18 "whereby shall I know this? For I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years. These were the words spoken by Zachariah to the angel, now let's look at verse 14. How shall this be? seeing I know no man" see right? They asked almost the question, but the fact that either Zachariah was a priest and should know better than doubting the word of God or the fact that Mary carries grace and lord Jesus Christ was coming from Mary and she needs to be pampered, angel Gabriel took time to explain to Mary, this only explains that we have grace more than ourselves. As a student I shouldn't follow the footstep of my friend who doesn't read but passes because grace differs, there are also those who will read more than I do but still pass more than them, that is what the scripture calls grace, when grace is in use, all protocols are broken.

Zach spoke out of unbelief, for he had a precedent, Abraham & Sarah

Mary ask an honest question, what happened to her was something never before heard of or done.

She believed Luke 1:45

Yes, it was all mercy & grace

Hello Queeneslot,

Good to hear from you again.

In the case of Mary, I think she spoke out of puzzlement, not necessarily out of doubt. Zechariah doubted, but both were given grace by God. Jesus was conceived in Mary as the angel had said and John was conceived in Elizabeth by Zechariah, something they had always wanted to occur in their lives. Gabriel was sent to announce what was going to happen. It did not depend on Mary's or Zechariah's faith or doubt. God's election stands true in both cases.