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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 219132

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  • Frankie J - 1 year ago
    Part 9

    6. This city was built (and is daily built) in imitation of Sion, painted just like Sion. The intent of its building was to eat out Sion, to suppress Sion, to withdraw from the truth by a false image, and to keep her inhabitants in peace and satisfaction, under a belief and hope that it is the true Sion; and therefore it must needs be made like Sion, else it could no way suit these ends. Every street must be like the streets of Sion; every house, like the houses of Sion; every tribe and family, like the tribes and families of Sion; every person, like the persons in Sion; all the laws, ordinances, &c., like the laws and ordinances of Sion; the worship, like the worship in Sion; the faith, like the faith of Sion; the painted Christ, like the Christ of Sion; all that go for truths, like the truths of Sion; they would not deceive else; Babylon would be soon seen through else, and become quickly desolate and forsaken, did she not lay her paint very thick, and with great art and skill. Now here is the wisdom, here is the true eye tried, to see through all the paints of this city, in all the shapes and forms of it; to turn from every street, every house, every chamber, every image and false appearance of truth; every false appearance of ordinances and ways of worship; every likeness of things which this spirit forms from the letter; every duty that it thus calls for; every promise of scripture which it endeavors to apply to that to which it belongs not, that it might lull the soul asleep, and cozen and deceive it of the thing promised; here, I say, is the true eye tried to turn from all this, and to wait for the raising and redeeming of the true seed of Sion, and for the springing up of the true life and power in it and from it: for as long as this spirit can deceive you with any likeness, ye shall never know the truth, nor come to the worship of the true, living God, which alone is in the spirit, and in the truth.

    Will be continue....
  • Carleton - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Still pondering Babylon while working today. Perhaps the revelation being revealed in Revelation Chapter 17 is a Spiritual Babylon and in Chapter 18 more of a natural Babylon. Both being revealed as warnings of falseness?
  • Carleton - In Reply - 1 year ago
    One more thought just now. The two chapters might be separated by time?
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi

    According to GOD's Word,what needs to happen first?Exactly what is written in Rev.18:1-5, i.e.the Judgment of the Great Whore,as follows:

    1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,having great power;and the earth was lightened with his glory.

    2And he cried mightily with a strong voice,saying,Babylon the great is fallen,and is become the habitation of devils,and the hold of every foul spirit,and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her,and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    4 And I heard another voice from heaven,saying,Come out of her, my people,that ye be not partakers of her sins,and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    5 For her sins have reached unto heaven,and GOD hath remembered her iniquities.

    Just after the fall of Babylon as above quoted,the marriage of the Lamb will be celebrated,yes,the marriage of the Lamb comes and His wife makes herself ready,yeah,the Bride makes herself ready for this wonderful event,Hallelujah!And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,clean and white:for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON

    Rev.19:1-10

    1AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,saying,Alleluia;Salvation,and Glory,and Honour,and Power, unto the Lord our GOD:

    2 For true and righteous are His Judgments:for He hath Judged the Great Whore,which did corrupt the earth with her fornication,and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.

    3 And again they said,Alleluia.And her smoke rose up for ever and ever

    4 And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne,saying,Amen;Alleluia(Rev.11:15-18describe this celestial Event)

    5 And a voice came out of the throne,saying,Praise our GOD,all ye His servants,and ye that fear Him,both small and great.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi, we might consider, in past times, much innocent blood of saints was spilt. At least some judgement was made as time has moved forward and the Full Gospel can still be preached. Perhaps now we live in another time of mammon and many possible masters.
  • Preacher of Truth - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Every 'deception' and 'truth' can be confirmed with the 'Word of God' for the 'Word is God ' ( John 1:1). It is the only Book in the world that is able to do that. The unfortunate part is that mankind in its natural state is not able to understand it ( Cor. 2:14). For that reason every person needs to repent and turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:16-18).

    There is only one City in the world that is built on seven mountains ( Rev. 17:9) and that is Rome: the Capitoline, the Quirinal, the Viminal, the Esquiline, the Caeline and the Aventine.

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ok, preacher

    Let take a look at what you stated

    Every 'deception' and 'truth' can be confirmed with the 'Word of God' for the 'Word is God ' ( John 1:1). It is the only Book in the world that is able to do that.

    The Word of God is not a Book, the Bible, it's the words of God & a true testimony of Him, but not God the Word.

    Was the Bible in the beginning with God or was God the Word ? Is the Bible able to discern the intend & thoughts of your heart? or God the Word, who is a sharp two edged sword piercing even to the dividing of soul & spirit. Is the Bible able to ride a white horse ? or the Word of God, Rev 19:11-16

    It was the Word of God who the Lord possess in the beginning of His ways, Proverbs 8:22-36

    Christ the Word, the power & the Wisdom of God who was with God in the beginning.

    You been corrected in this seven mountain theory of yours,

    Friend, it appears that He, the living Word of God has found you out & your faith is flawed, for your own words are a witness against you, deceived would be a appropriated word for this situation you now find yourself in.

    Unfortunately in your carnal natural state your understanding has been blinded to this, but there is repentance if you turn from darkness, from the power of Satan to God, the Light that been reveal to you. Ephesians 5:18

    & truly may God grant you this repentance, though it maybe just a sin of ignorance.

    A friend In love & truth
  • Preacher of Truth - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Concerning 'The Word of God' and the use of the word 'Bible'.

    The word 'Bible' is not used anywhere in the 'Word of God'. It is just another word for 'book' that was regarded as authoritative, and history has shown that it started to be used to describe 'The Word of God' not until 220 AD.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ok

    the book is the words of God, but not God the Word
  • Preacher of Truth - In Reply - 1 year ago
    John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    2 Peter 1:20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
  • Preacher of Truth - In Reply - 1 year ago
    John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    2 Peter 1:20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

    Acts 26:18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them, which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Preacher of Truth

    You are right,what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD.The Word is GOD, self-executable.The Word of GOD is exclusivelly referring to the 7 hills where is sat a certain Whore which rides upon a Beast full of names of blasphemy having seven heads and ten horns, as says the Word of GOD-Rev.13:1-9

    By the way,the roots of the Beast is Babylon described in verse 3: "the Beast which I saw was like unto a leopard,and his feet were as the feet of a bear,and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(Babylon),decribed in Daniel 7:3-6

    By exclusion,there is not any Beast full of names of blasphemy having seven heads and ten horns in"Jerusalem being one of them as well as Babylon,Moscow,Mecca,Lisbon,Tehra,Ammon and 19U.S.cities also",so what GiGi said in his reply has nothing to do with the Scriptures as he thinks erroneously from a human perspective

    Scripture is really referring to the seven hills of the Antichrist's cradle,a devilish religious system developed by Satan within the Roman Empire,after he had corrupted the Church of Rome that was established by the Apostles Paul and even Peter,both were killed by persecution,thus was developed a satanic Antichrist's movement through the corrupt church of Rome,the ancient Catholic Church,later Roman Catholic Church.Notice that the book of Revelation describes 7 churches,and the church of Rome would be the eighth,it was left out because the APOSTATE church of Rome already had been reproved by JESUS

    The Church of Rome still existent developed a systematic opposition against to the true Churches of the Lord that preached the Gospel of God's Kingdom,preached firstly by the Lord JESUS Christ,and after by the Apostles and disciples of the Lord.By the way,The Gosple of GOD's Kingdom is still preached today

    1John2:18-19

    19 They went out from us, because they were not of us;for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us:but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not of us
  • Preacher of Truth - In Reply - 1 year ago
    It is clearly written in the 'Word of God' that 'The Mystery Babylon' sat on 'mountains' not 'hills', which you referred to, through which this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good Morning Preacher of Truth

    Actually there are other cities built on or between 7 hills, Jerusalem being one of them as well as Babylon, Moscow, Mecca, Lisbon, Tehra, Ammon and 19 U.S. cities also.



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