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You said oudeis could mean no man, but a better meaning or translation is no one,
If we applied the Greek meaning of the word oudeis as you say it would read; " No man or no one in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
It doesn't change anything!
The emphasis is where John looked.
If it means nobody was in heaven then you would have to say nobody was on earth and nobody was under the earth as well.
So where is everybody?
John looked in the three places where men are present.
If they are only on earth and under the earth, John should have left heaven out all together.
I'm convinced where Jesus will be we will be with him also. John 14:3.
Where is everybody, this is not just about man or no one or anything, it is every created being that God has created, only the Son of God the Lamb slain, who lived a perfect life and was obedient to the Father unto death on the cross was worthy to open the book or even to look on it.
Oudeis eliminates all there is, nothing living in heaven or earth or under the earth could even look on the book must less open it. It is not limited to man it is every created being including every angelic being. This does not have anything to do with man being in heaven it is telling us Jesus the Son of God is the only one who is worthy to even touch the book.
Yes, JESUS is our Kinsman redeemer. But according to the Word of GOD, there is a great mystery.
There are actually two redeemers: the main Redeemer and a secondary or subordinate redeemer.
The main Redeemer ( Ruth 4:4) is a Jew -JESUS- of course. Who is the other secondary redeemer or subordinate to the main redeemer, as revealed in Ruth chapter 4? And what is the inheritance of each of the redeemers? By the way, the secondary redeemer told the chief Redeemer-JESUS: What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess,... And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar MINE OWN inheritance: redeem thou MY RIGHT to thyself; for I cannot redeem it. Therefore the kinsman said unto the secondary redeemer, Buy it for thee. (Great mystery)
Job 19:25-29
25 I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the LATTER DAY upon the earth(that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last milennium, the millennium of Christ and of the Judgment Seat of Christ)
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see GOD:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another...
29 Be ye afraid of the Sword: for wrath bringeth the punishments of the Sword, that ye may know there is a Judgment.
Revelation 11:18 - 18 And the NATIONS were (will be) angry, and thy wrath is come(GOD's wrath comes), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth. (This prophecy will fulfill LITERALLY from now on. Get ready you all)
Yes, Jesus is our "KINSMAN" redeemer.. I emphasize Kinsman because of what is discussed in this thread. In Revelation 5:4-10 Ir states that NO MAN was found to open the book. It had to be a man to fulfill the role! And Jesus qualifies being born of a woman to be our Kinsman.
Galatians 4:3-5 "Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons
We learn much about this in type in the book of Ruth and in other places on the OT.
You said oudeis could mean no man, but a better meaning or translation is no one,
If we applied the Greek meaning of the word oudeis as you say it would read; " No man or no one in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
It doesn't change anything!
The emphasis is where John looked.
If it means nobody was in heaven then you would have to say nobody was on earth and nobody was under the earth as well.
So where is everybody?
John looked in the three places where men are present.
If they are only on earth and under the earth, John should have left heaven out all together.
I'm convinced where Jesus will be we will be with him also. John 14:3.
God bless.
Where is everybody, this is not just about man or no one or anything, it is every created being that God has created, only the Son of God the Lamb slain, who lived a perfect life and was obedient to the Father unto death on the cross was worthy to open the book or even to look on it.
Oudeis eliminates all there is, nothing living in heaven or earth or under the earth could even look on the book must less open it. It is not limited to man it is every created being including every angelic being. This does not have anything to do with man being in heaven it is telling us Jesus the Son of God is the only one who is worthy to even touch the book.
In love, God bless,
RLW
Ww both agree on that!
Christ is our Kinsman redeemer.
God bless
Yes, JESUS is our Kinsman redeemer. But according to the Word of GOD, there is a great mystery.
There are actually two redeemers: the main Redeemer and a secondary or subordinate redeemer.
The main Redeemer ( Ruth 4:4) is a Jew -JESUS- of course. Who is the other secondary redeemer or subordinate to the main redeemer, as revealed in Ruth chapter 4? And what is the inheritance of each of the redeemers? By the way, the secondary redeemer told the chief Redeemer-JESUS: What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess,... And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar MINE OWN inheritance: redeem thou MY RIGHT to thyself; for I cannot redeem it. Therefore the kinsman said unto the secondary redeemer, Buy it for thee. (Great mystery)
Job 19:25-29
25 I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the LATTER DAY upon the earth(that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last milennium, the millennium of Christ and of the Judgment Seat of Christ)
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see GOD:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another...
29 Be ye afraid of the Sword: for wrath bringeth the punishments of the Sword, that ye may know there is a Judgment.
Revelation 11:18 - 18 And the NATIONS were (will be) angry, and thy wrath is come(GOD's wrath comes), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth. (This prophecy will fulfill LITERALLY from now on. Get ready you all)
Yes, Jesus is our "KINSMAN" redeemer.. I emphasize Kinsman because of what is discussed in this thread. In Revelation 5:4-10 Ir states that NO MAN was found to open the book. It had to be a man to fulfill the role! And Jesus qualifies being born of a woman to be our Kinsman.
Galatians 4:3-5 "Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons
We learn much about this in type in the book of Ruth and in other places on the OT.
GB.
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