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  • Peaches on Revelation 14 - 1 year ago
    The Mark of the Beast is about who you will worship, Jesus (our Saviour and Creator of all things) or Satan (the Beast power). It has to do with what you think and your actions.

    It cannot have anything to do with the covid shot. Even the childhood vaccines have aborted DNA debris in them and this too adds someone's DNA into your body and your stem cells readily take the DNA into them.
  • Hammer63 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jordyn, I don't know if people believe the beast is Satan, but instead directed by Satan or (against Christ) anti-Christ. Rev. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? The Kingdom of the most High in Daniel 7 is after the four beasts. The kingdom of God in Daniel 7 comes during the 4th beast and then after arises a "little horn" which made war with the saints (anti-Christ). Interesting, just read carefully. I could be missing something, but seems understandable. Also, 2 Thess. 2 uses a lot of same language in reference to how the deception will come. By miracles.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hammer63:

    You are correct 2 Thessalonians 2 is a parallel; with Mosses and the prophets, as well as Revelation.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 1 year ago
    Hi Peaches,

    This mark will be freely taken, it will not be disguised and whoever takes it will know what they are doing, like you said who will you worship?

    In Revelation 13:11-18 the second beast/the false prophet is the one who makes an image of the first beast, and forces people to receive this mark, and if not, they are killed. The mark of the beast is said to be diverse things, a literal mark, a computer chip, symbols, and more, something like this was done in the past.

    It may be like the Decian persecution in 250 AD under Emperor Decius. The decree ordered sacrifices had to be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate, it was a signed and witnessed certificate, issued to that effect. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods/image, or idol for the well-being of the Emperor. A great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices.

    Many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies, and others went into hiding. This picture language appears to identify those who had given either mental assent or extended the right hand of fellowship to this evil conglomerate power. These compromisers thus were able to prosper economically. By way of contrast, those who did not receive the mark were unable to go into the marketplaces and hence suffered hardship, illustrated in the form of economic deprivation.

    Something like this could be the mark of the beast although I believe it will be an actual mark. Like the ones in the past who gave in and took the certificate so they would not be killed, one will give up eternal life for a few years in this corrupt world. If we are living when this starts, we must stand strong in our faith regardless of what we face, God will give us the strength.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jordyn - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 1 year ago
    Peaches:

    Why do you assume the beast in Revelation is satan or the anti-christ?

    Daniel 7:23 ...the FORTH beast shall be the FORTH KINGDOM on earth ....

    John the Baptist came preaching the KINGDOM of GOD; the FORTH kingdom on earth, the FORTH BEAST, the last kingdom on earth.

    The Kingdom of God has been on earth now for about 2000 years; CHRIST IN THE FLESH, IN YOU, his BODY, causing man TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Ezekiel 36:27 I WILL put MY SPIRIT IN YOU and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes and TO KEEP my judgements and DO THEM

    Revelation 6:7 And when HE (the lamb of God) had opened the forth seal, I heard the voice of the FORTH BEAST (the lamb of God, the kingdom of God) SAY, come and see

    Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, and his name that sat on him WAS DEATH, and the grave followed after him, and POWER WAS GIVEN TO THEM (the image of the BEAST, the kingdom of GOD) over the forth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD (the word of God), and with HUNGER (no bread of life), and with DEATH, and with the BEAST of the EARTH (those that carry the mark of the BEAST: the kingdom of God.

    Revelation 12:16 And the earth HELPED the WOMAN, and the earth OPENED her MOUTH (DEATH and the grave), and swallowed up the FLOOD (people, tongues and nations) which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

    Psalms 7:13 He hath also prepared for him the INSTRUMENTS of DEATH; he ORDAINED his ARROWS against the persecutors.

    Jeremiah 51:29 THOU (those that carry the MARK) are my battle axe and WEAPONS of WAR (arrows, the word of GOD); for with THEE (the saints, the BODY of Christ, the IMAGE of the BEAST) WILL I break in pieces the NATIONS, and with THEE will I destroy kingdoms.

    Revelation 2:27 ...to him that overcometh, WILL I give POWER over the NATIONS .....

    God Bless You!

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  • Hammer63 - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 1 year ago
    Peaches, I agree with your interpretation of the "mark". Symbolizing scriptures like Deut. 11:8 "Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes." Referring to what we think and do. The angel sealing the servants of God in Rev. 7 seems like it has to do with the Holy Spirit. Eph. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Referring to changing our thinking.

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  • Bennymkje - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 1 year ago
    Mark of the beast is not about any person on whom one can tack his 'bogey'. In the cold war it was Soviet union and quiet recently we have come across the names such as Ayatollah Komeini, Saddam Hossein ISIL et al. The Spirit uses Number 6 as he uses Number 3 or 4. In Ez.39:2 the number Six is used as 'condemnation' against Gog.("And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee". The same tag we find with regards to the image that the king set up. "Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon."(Dan.3:1) This is against the number 3 assigned for the Son. The creation account in Seven days we have the first Four days allotted for heaven, Four gospels, 4 cardinal directions indication of Jesus Christ the Savior of the World God was Word. Thus 4+3 gives us 7,- the command number for perfection.

    666 refers in sequence body spirit and soul which is short of 777. The beast whose authority came from the dragon had no use for the word of God. So his body, spirit and soul were equally marked as condemned. The dragon in Re.13 has seven heads because he is the son of God gone rogue. But his 10 horns indicate he is under the wrath which explains the Decalogue. So whoever rejects the word of God is marked 666 and belongs to Satan. God shall not judge but has left all judgment to the Son. So till the Great White Throne the number 666 stays.

    In Re.16 we have a hint from the Spirit that Satan, anti-christ and the beast are in agreement: "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet./For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, "(vv.13-14)
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 1 year ago
    Hello Peaches, You are right about the Mark being about who we give our allegiance and worship to and that it is not any vaccine now available.

    But what you said about the DNA is not correct. One's DNA is not altered by a vaccine anymore that by the meat or other foods we eat. The nourishment of food is broken down and goes into every cell of our body. So we should not fear our DNA being changed against God's will for how each person's DNA is unique to them. God is able to preserve our bodily integrity down to the DNA, even to the amino acid molecules that make up the DNA and to the atoms that make up the elements that constitute our bodies.

    I praise God for we are fearfully and wonderfully made!



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