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I meant those who tasted the heavenly gift etc can NOT be renewed to repentance.

Simply put; the Holy Spirit is the method of displaying Christ's presence on earth. Hebrews 6:4-8 as well as 1 Peter 2:3 show that those who have tasted the heavenly gift and other things of the Spirit as well as the powers of the coming age to be renewed once again to repentance once fallen away. This ties in for several reasons to the text in Matthew 12:31. We must remember first of all that much like Satan Himself Christ's works were made manifest for all men to see and thus nothing more could be done after witnessing undeniable miracles such as blind being healed which had never been seen in O.T. times. Also; of course the Pharisees accused him of using the power of Beelzebub to perform His miracles; despite the fact that the Spirit even before the church age was there such as with John the Baptist to convict the world of sin; righteousness and judgment to come. ( John 16:8). The Pharisees denied the Divinity of Christ and that was after all they saw and Christ saying that He was the I AM ( John 8:58). Therefore they wouldn't accept worshipping Him and His Divinity as a member of the Godhead was hidden from them. Therefore Satan was truly their God. ( John 8:44).

Satan Himself was built on pride and self-exaltation therefore was mad enough to desire worship for himself despite being in heaven and seeing God's glory and no doubt the earth and the rest of Creation therefore he was given no chance of repentance ( Job 38:7). We see singing in that verse; something Lucifer as Cheribum was designed to do in charge of worship but it was turned to evil. By default then Satan is the God and loyalty of all who do this to the Spirit; most will sin and admit God is righteous or simply hate God or be afraid (as in the sixth seal); eventually Satan will be sent for those who LOVE not the truth but a lie ( 2 Thess. 2:10). Like it or not Antichrist will eventually blasphemy God and yet all those not in the Book of Life will worship him and be damned ( Rev. 13:8).

Richard, thank you for your reply. There is much to say concerning your reply, yet in the spirit of fellowship I will forego the debatable things. But, I will point out that the Pharisees didn't reject Christ because they didn't believe He was The Messiah! No, on the contrary, they knew that Christ was indeed a man from God (Messiah) (John3:1-2). For their unbelief had a more filthy origin; Christ's teachings were about man having a Personal Relationship with The Father, and because of this God would Fulfill The Prophecy in "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Exodus 19:6 KJV. Therefore, the Pharisees knew that Jesus Christ came to take away their power as a priesthood by making us all priests! It's not that they didn't know who Christ was, it was that they called Christ an enemy to preserve their power over Israel. And yes, for that reason they were Judged. It is also something many leaders in the church are still doing today!