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"LIKEWISE RECKON" ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,
What does Paul mean by saying "LIKEWISE RECKON"?
Obviously Paul we are warned we shouldn't continue in sin after being saved by grace as Paul mentioned in Romans 5:15-21. through Romans 6:1-2.
Paul goes on in verses 3-4. "Know ye not, that so many of us as were BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so WE ALSO SHOULD WALK IN NEWNESS OF LIFE.
Paul goes on in verses 6-7- "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not SERVE sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Verses 9-11.
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
LIKEWISE RECKON YE ALSO YOURSELVES TO BE DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, BUT ALIVE UNTO GOD through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Paul is talking to Believers!
Paul is urging believers to "RECOGNIZE" you wasn't just Identified with Christ death in baptism,
You should also be Identified in his ressurection and have newness of Life.
God didn't just offer Christ as a free gift for those who believe unto Salvation. SALVATION IS A NEW LIFE.
( PAUL IS SAYING RECOGNIZE THAT SIN SHOULDN'T DOMINATE IN A BELIEVERS LIFE. )
Does this makes you perfect?
No, not CONDITIONALLY.
Shall we resist sin? Yes
We are perfect POSITIONALLY
Colossians 3:1-4.
We have been given an earnest of the Spirit, will be perfect CONDITIONALLY and glorified when we cast off this tabernacle/ Body of sin.
Well said brother, likewise reckon, we should think or consider and live a life as if we are dead to sin. Some take it as it is a one-time deal, and they are good to go. But is it conditional? If we are conditionally accepted there is something on our part, we must do to be accepted. Our faith, like Abraham, is that God is the only true God and He can and will reward us. We must choose to come to Him on His terms or continue in the ways of the world and if we do we will receive the gift of faith from God, His calling.
What must we do? We are all sinners in need of God's mercy, or our sins will remain, not forgiven, blotted out, or paid for unless we come to repentance as we are commanded to, Acts 17:30. If we obey we will enter His mercy, and our sins will be blotted out, Prov.28:13 Is. 55:7 1 John 1:9Acts 3:19. Our past sins that separated us from God, Is. 59:1-2.
With repentance and confession, we are no longer separated from God, no longer under condemnation we enter justification, made right with God we enter the presence of the Lord, Acts 3:19. Baptized into Christ we begin a relationship through the Holy Spirit to all who obey and repent, Acts 2:38.
To remain in justification, we must continue to follow the lead He provides through the Holy Spirit, Rom. 8:1Rom 8:12-14. While we remain in Justification and repentance Jesus continues to cover by His blood the penalty for sins we commit, 1 John 1:7.
Paul, we know was chosen by Jesus and he was filled with the Holy Spirit, but he said even he could be a castaway, 1 Cor. 9:25-27. Even with the seal of the earnest of the Holy Spirit, a downpayment is for what we are at that time, if we fall back, it can be forfeited if we are not willing to remain repentant. If we choose to walk by the flesh and not after the Spirit we return to condemnation and we will perish, John 15:6 the word IF, we will have to pay the penalty for sin ourselves, Rev. 21:8.
I would add to your statement of Paul in 1Cor 9:27
Though Romans is place before Cor in the bible, it was actually written after Cor
In Pauls ever increasing growth in the Grace in the Lord Jesus Christ, Grace brought him to the perfection, maturity, & confidence that he states in Rom 8:35-39
only sin separates
This clearly show a perfection that can be added too, as we continue steadfastly to grow in Grace until the end 2Tim 4:7
this is the reason he states in Philippians 3:12 & then in Philippians 3:15 it was a contradiction of truths, but that he learnt
John 15:5 & Philippians 4:13 Humility, Micah 6:8
We have the Scriptures as a testimony of Paul's extra ordinary life, all owning to Grace, 1Cor 15:10
God is not a respector of persons, though He does have different placement within His body, yet all are required to be holy!
Thank you, I did use 1 Cor. 9:25-27 there are many other scriptures on this but I try to keep my posts as short as I can. I agree the longer we walk in the Spirit the stronger our faith becomes. Our repentance and our obedience keep us in a relationship through the Spirit of God with Jesus and through this faith given to us by God it becomes easier to say no to the temptations that come against us.
Our obedience and our conscience reveal who we are servants to, and we must stay obedient unto righteousness, Rom. 6:16. Nothing can separate us from the love of Christ, and as you said only sin separates us from God that is why if we fail to stay repentant and obedient, we fall out of His mercy and grace and our sins will no longer be covered and if we do not repent and return, we will perish and pay the penalty. My understanding is that is our choice, many are called few are chosen, Matt. 22:14.
If someone wants to do a word study that will be worth the time it would be on the little word if. If is a little word but is important, it expresses directly to our responsibility to God. If we hold fast the confidence, Heb. 3:6 If we faint not, Gal. 6:9 If ye continue in the faith, Col. 1:23 If ye do these things, 2 Peter 1:10 If we say that we have no sin, 1 John 1:8, many many more.
We are human and we will sin, it has been passed down from the first Adam. As long as we are faithful, repentant, and obedient, the blood that Jesus made available on the cross as payment for the penalty of sin will cover and blot out our sins and we will be in the mercy and grace of God. Will we ever be free from sin? Yes. When we are raised by the same Spirit that raised Jesus, we as mortals will then put on immortality and this corruptible will put on incorruption.
If we say we can be sin-free, we claim something that scripture says we are incapable of, only one man has lived a perfect sinless life and that is our Lord Jesus Christ. Are we to strive to be sinless every day, Yes. Our sins can be covered and blotted out by the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ, but they are still our sins and until we are resurrected, we will not be free from sin. We are sown in dishonor and are raised in glory.
1 Cor. 15:52-58 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Adam's transgression as simple as it appears in human thought, got us in to this whole mess, This reveals to us God's utter abhorrence of the least sin, what would happen to you, & others of like faith, if y'all suddenly get kill, before having a chance to repented & repentance be actually granted?
The godly fruit of repentance that God is looking for here is a forsaking of sin, with a utter abhorrence of it. This is the change of mind that is birth with a godly sorrow within the hearts & minds of mankind by His Spirit.
To continue in sin & repentance for life is liken to this true proverb 2Pet 2:22 the expression of the context Peter is relating is once cleansed, thoroughly purged, & being born again, one is dead indeed unto sin.
Another point of this proverb is the one's that continue back & forth in sin & supposedly repents as a way of life has never been born again, nor transformed, "old things has not pass away, all things has not become new" so, their still pigs or dogs & will continue to do naturally what pigs & dogs do.
The deceitfulness of sin has him ensnared, their continue disobedience has dull their hearing & blinded their senses, one's faith is a lie, despite their profession, their confessions & sinful works declares their hypocrites. Satan power is so great that he can remove the condemnation & yet the cause of it, one's spiritual sinful nature is not crucify on the Cross of self denial, nor can one say their following Christ. "following Christ" is the great emphasis of Christ command here, for if we're following Christ, we will not continue in sin as a way of life. There a time when Holy Spirit find us in sin, a time of cleansing, & a time of being seal & gathered to the Gardner. Matt 3:12
1Pet 4:1 common sense reveals we must still be living in the flesh for this to take place.
Just a question not to offend, just to inspire thought and study. Do you think when God placed Adam in the Garden of Eden and told Adam he could eat from every tree and fruit of the garden but one tree? God declared the end from the beginning do you think He did not know what Adam was going to do?
I am sorry, but on some subjects, I struggle to convey my understanding. To continue in sin and repentance is not what I was saying and not the way I am living. Daily repentance and obedience are not living in doubt the power of God's forgiveness. It is a daily lifestyle repentance is a way to progress in our sanctification a pattern of life to endure until the end we forsake sin daily not just one time.
It is through the repentance of all the sins we have done and the glory we give to God through the faith and obedience of Jesus Christ that we can be forgiven. Repentance is the foundation of our lives it is the beginning and the end of our life.
We can get slack, but we must every day test ourselves that we are walking in the Spirit and are striving to endure until the end and that starts with being obedient and repentant as we have been commanded to do, 1 John 1:9Luke 13:3Matt. 4:17Acts 17:30. We will be absent from the presence of sin when we are glorified at our resurrection.
I rejoice to read & understand more from the thoughts of your heart, the inner workings of God's Spirit within, the sincerity, humility, earnestness & simplicity in which you endeavors to love & obey the Lord. Thank you for sharing yourself.
Yes God knew, but in all fairness, Adam must have had also the opportunity to obey as we ourselves now have.
You description of sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience is accurate, but lets finish the verse, "sprinkling of the Blood/Life of Jesus, For His life is in the Blood Lev 17:11,14 it not only cleanses but implants the Divine nature. As we continue steadfastly exercising of the doctrines of Christ, I'm speaking of Grace appearance "the hearing the living Word of God, that's near us even in our heart & in our mouth, the word of Faith that Paul preach, here the power of Life is felt & known, not letter learning. 2Cor 3:6
Sanctification "making holy" is describe in Titus 3:5 unto the new creature, being born again by this Incorruptible Seed.
The Light, conforms & transforms unto Himself, in which there is no darkness at all. Eph5:8 "were" past tense.
The resurrection life is reveal here & now, in ever increasing measures in sanctification work, & is consummated by being baptized in the Holy Spirit, revealed also as being baptize unto His death Rom 6:3-6 the life of the born-again/new creature is the walking in the newness of the resurrection Life of Christ were one is seal & gather to the Gardener, where self is seen no more, its not I but Christ.
There's two stages we may attain to in our growth in Grace/Life
Reaching the state of Adam innocents before he fell, where if not diligent/watchful we maybe ensnared again , Yet if one continues as mention in the exercising of the Grace of God, one will be baptizes by the Holy Spirit, "the threshing floor, (our hearts) thoroughly purge". We're born again, dead unto sin, alive & in union with Christ & the Father John 17:21-23 here & now!
I don't advocate the studing of the letter, for these reasons,
it's takes away from Holy Spirit as our Teacher
in the Apostasy in became rely on as God definitive rule to know Him
it has become a form of knowledge without the power,
in man's ungenerated nature, he going to naturally reject the suffering of picking up the Cross & denying self.
Yet, he deceives himself by thinking he can still follow Christ. Pacifying himself with wearing the cross around his neck, along with his beloved sins in his heart.
With that being said, an a added encouragement it can be a help while we"re in our weaker state, if Holy Spirit is our Teacher & Guide who will lead us into all Truth, again emphasising The Living Word of God heard in our heart, Grace appearance. John 1:9
In Titus 3:5 "washing of regeneration & renewing in the Holy Spirit" define as
(spiritual) rebirth (the state or the act), i.e. (figuratively) spiritual renovation; specially, Messianic restoration --"moral renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God, a radical change of mind for the better" effected in baptism, Commonly, however, the word denotes the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as the renewal or restoration of life after death.
The death speaking of here is Rom 6:3-6 the consummation of Matt 3:12 being raise in the newness of His Life, "ye must be born again"
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR, AND HATE THINE ENEMY.
But I say unto you, LOVE your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
( THERE'S THE CONTEXT! )
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Christ is giving an distinction between the days of old under the law and the coming Kingdom.
However here's much said about perfect love in 1 John 4:6-21
John Speaks much on this.
Here's a few verses from 1 John.
4:8 "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
4:10 "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
1 John 4:21 is my favorite.
"And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also".
Did you notice it doesn't say "he who loveth God "SHOULD" love his brother also?
Loving your brother is a condition that the Holyspirit causes when one truly loves God.
Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
This is profession without possession, God's see us as we are.
go to your letter learning books & see what perfect is define as
& here's one for you Matt 5:48
complete, perfect, mature
From telos; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with ho) completeness -- of full age, man, perfect.
There's not a different standard of holiness stated here, for God & mankind, it's as our heavenly Father is perfect!
Our Standard has been lifted up, lets pick up our cross & follow our victorious Captian Christ Jesus
I will give witness my friends,
that the journey is very long, difficult & laiden with many snares of the enemy within & without; the pathway is very straight indeed. Psalms 23:4 His promise to me years ago Isa 42:16 & he has been faithfully faithful to Himself & me
I see the Light at the end of the tunnel, I'm even at the door! All I need do is to continue to love Him fervently & my neigbor as myself, & do unto to other what I would have done unto me.
Through all the very difficult hardships, I can in simplicity of heart say I would not change one thing, for in the very firey trials of my faith, I came to know Him, which make it more precious than silver or gold. I can see as press on to the higher calling of perfection, these experiences with Him will continue to increase though they will be a change of reasons 2Cor 6:6-10 & become more precious that life itself.
Friends, pick up the Cross-the Grace of God that appears in your heart, it is indeed He, the Emmanuel of God who is within you
speaking ever so softly in motions of love, kindness, rebukes & corrections all things that pertain to life & godliness.
I've enjoyed reading your posts even though our views don't always agree they are always grounded in sound biblical doctrine. I can tell you are a true child of the light. I can't say that about everyone here.
What does Paul mean by saying "LIKEWISE RECKON"?
Obviously Paul we are warned we shouldn't continue in sin after being saved by grace as Paul mentioned in Romans 5:15-21. through Romans 6:1-2.
Paul goes on in verses 3-4. "Know ye not, that so many of us as were BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so WE ALSO SHOULD WALK IN NEWNESS OF LIFE.
Paul goes on in verses 6-7- "Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not SERVE sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Verses 9-11.
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
LIKEWISE RECKON YE ALSO YOURSELVES TO BE DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, BUT ALIVE UNTO GOD through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Paul is talking to Believers!
Paul is urging believers to "RECOGNIZE" you wasn't just Identified with Christ death in baptism,
You should also be Identified in his ressurection and have newness of Life.
God didn't just offer Christ as a free gift for those who believe unto Salvation. SALVATION IS A NEW LIFE.
( PAUL IS SAYING RECOGNIZE THAT SIN SHOULDN'T DOMINATE IN A BELIEVERS LIFE. )
Does this makes you perfect?
No, not CONDITIONALLY.
Shall we resist sin? Yes
We are perfect POSITIONALLY
Colossians 3:1-4.
We have been given an earnest of the Spirit, will be perfect CONDITIONALLY and glorified when we cast off this tabernacle/ Body of sin.
God bless.
Well said brother, likewise reckon, we should think or consider and live a life as if we are dead to sin. Some take it as it is a one-time deal, and they are good to go. But is it conditional? If we are conditionally accepted there is something on our part, we must do to be accepted. Our faith, like Abraham, is that God is the only true God and He can and will reward us. We must choose to come to Him on His terms or continue in the ways of the world and if we do we will receive the gift of faith from God, His calling.
What must we do? We are all sinners in need of God's mercy, or our sins will remain, not forgiven, blotted out, or paid for unless we come to repentance as we are commanded to, Acts 17:30. If we obey we will enter His mercy, and our sins will be blotted out, Prov.28:13 Is. 55:7 1 John 1:9 Acts 3:19. Our past sins that separated us from God, Is. 59:1-2.
With repentance and confession, we are no longer separated from God, no longer under condemnation we enter justification, made right with God we enter the presence of the Lord, Acts 3:19. Baptized into Christ we begin a relationship through the Holy Spirit to all who obey and repent, Acts 2:38.
To remain in justification, we must continue to follow the lead He provides through the Holy Spirit, Rom. 8:1 Rom 8:12-14. While we remain in Justification and repentance Jesus continues to cover by His blood the penalty for sins we commit, 1 John 1:7.
Paul, we know was chosen by Jesus and he was filled with the Holy Spirit, but he said even he could be a castaway, 1 Cor. 9:25-27. Even with the seal of the earnest of the Holy Spirit, a downpayment is for what we are at that time, if we fall back, it can be forfeited if we are not willing to remain repentant. If we choose to walk by the flesh and not after the Spirit we return to condemnation and we will perish, John 15:6 the word IF, we will have to pay the penalty for sin ourselves, Rev. 21:8.
Just my understanding.
God bless,
RLW
Thanks for the reply.
I'm on the road, Hopefully I will get the chance to give my response by this weekend.
God bless
Well said,
I would add to your statement of Paul in 1Cor 9:27
Though Romans is place before Cor in the bible, it was actually written after Cor
In Pauls ever increasing growth in the Grace in the Lord Jesus Christ, Grace brought him to the perfection, maturity, & confidence that he states in Rom 8:35-39
only sin separates
This clearly show a perfection that can be added too, as we continue steadfastly to grow in Grace until the end 2Tim 4:7
this is the reason he states in Philippians 3:12 & then in Philippians 3:15 it was a contradiction of truths, but that he learnt
John 15:5 & Philippians 4:13 Humility, Micah 6:8
We have the Scriptures as a testimony of Paul's extra ordinary life, all owning to Grace, 1Cor 15:10
God is not a respector of persons, though He does have different placement within His body, yet all are required to be holy!
Grace & Peace to you
Thank you, I did use 1 Cor. 9:25-27 there are many other scriptures on this but I try to keep my posts as short as I can. I agree the longer we walk in the Spirit the stronger our faith becomes. Our repentance and our obedience keep us in a relationship through the Spirit of God with Jesus and through this faith given to us by God it becomes easier to say no to the temptations that come against us.
Our obedience and our conscience reveal who we are servants to, and we must stay obedient unto righteousness, Rom. 6:16. Nothing can separate us from the love of Christ, and as you said only sin separates us from God that is why if we fail to stay repentant and obedient, we fall out of His mercy and grace and our sins will no longer be covered and if we do not repent and return, we will perish and pay the penalty. My understanding is that is our choice, many are called few are chosen, Matt. 22:14.
If someone wants to do a word study that will be worth the time it would be on the little word if. If is a little word but is important, it expresses directly to our responsibility to God. If we hold fast the confidence, Heb. 3:6 If we faint not, Gal. 6:9 If ye continue in the faith, Col. 1:23 If ye do these things, 2 Peter 1:10 If we say that we have no sin, 1 John 1:8, many many more.
God bless,
RLW
do you believe you'll ever overcome sin / satan ?
We are human and we will sin, it has been passed down from the first Adam. As long as we are faithful, repentant, and obedient, the blood that Jesus made available on the cross as payment for the penalty of sin will cover and blot out our sins and we will be in the mercy and grace of God. Will we ever be free from sin? Yes. When we are raised by the same Spirit that raised Jesus, we as mortals will then put on immortality and this corruptible will put on incorruption.
If we say we can be sin-free, we claim something that scripture says we are incapable of, only one man has lived a perfect sinless life and that is our Lord Jesus Christ. Are we to strive to be sinless every day, Yes. Our sins can be covered and blotted out by the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ, but they are still our sins and until we are resurrected, we will not be free from sin. We are sown in dishonor and are raised in glory.
1 Cor. 15:52-58 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
God bless,
RLW
Adam's transgression as simple as it appears in human thought, got us in to this whole mess, This reveals to us God's utter abhorrence of the least sin, what would happen to you, & others of like faith, if y'all suddenly get kill, before having a chance to repented & repentance be actually granted?
The godly fruit of repentance that God is looking for here is a forsaking of sin, with a utter abhorrence of it. This is the change of mind that is birth with a godly sorrow within the hearts & minds of mankind by His Spirit.
To continue in sin & repentance for life is liken to this true proverb 2Pet 2:22 the expression of the context Peter is relating is once cleansed, thoroughly purged, & being born again, one is dead indeed unto sin.
Another point of this proverb is the one's that continue back & forth in sin & supposedly repents as a way of life has never been born again, nor transformed, "old things has not pass away, all things has not become new" so, their still pigs or dogs & will continue to do naturally what pigs & dogs do.
The deceitfulness of sin has him ensnared, their continue disobedience has dull their hearing & blinded their senses, one's faith is a lie, despite their profession, their confessions & sinful works declares their hypocrites. Satan power is so great that he can remove the condemnation & yet the cause of it, one's spiritual sinful nature is not crucify on the Cross of self denial, nor can one say their following Christ. "following Christ" is the great emphasis of Christ command here, for if we're following Christ, we will not continue in sin as a way of life. There a time when Holy Spirit find us in sin, a time of cleansing, & a time of being seal & gathered to the Gardner. Matt 3:12
1Pet 4:1 common sense reveals we must still be living in the flesh for this to take place.
In the Seed
Just a question not to offend, just to inspire thought and study. Do you think when God placed Adam in the Garden of Eden and told Adam he could eat from every tree and fruit of the garden but one tree? God declared the end from the beginning do you think He did not know what Adam was going to do?
I am sorry, but on some subjects, I struggle to convey my understanding. To continue in sin and repentance is not what I was saying and not the way I am living. Daily repentance and obedience are not living in doubt the power of God's forgiveness. It is a daily lifestyle repentance is a way to progress in our sanctification a pattern of life to endure until the end we forsake sin daily not just one time.
It is through the repentance of all the sins we have done and the glory we give to God through the faith and obedience of Jesus Christ that we can be forgiven. Repentance is the foundation of our lives it is the beginning and the end of our life.
We can get slack, but we must every day test ourselves that we are walking in the Spirit and are striving to endure until the end and that starts with being obedient and repentant as we have been commanded to do, 1 John 1:9 Luke 13:3 Matt. 4:17 Acts 17:30. We will be absent from the presence of sin when we are glorified at our resurrection.
God bless,
RLW
I rejoice to read & understand more from the thoughts of your heart, the inner workings of God's Spirit within, the sincerity, humility, earnestness & simplicity in which you endeavors to love & obey the Lord. Thank you for sharing yourself.
Yes God knew, but in all fairness, Adam must have had also the opportunity to obey as we ourselves now have.
You description of sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience is accurate, but lets finish the verse, "sprinkling of the Blood/Life of Jesus, For His life is in the Blood Lev 17:11,14 it not only cleanses but implants the Divine nature. As we continue steadfastly exercising of the doctrines of Christ, I'm speaking of Grace appearance "the hearing the living Word of God, that's near us even in our heart & in our mouth, the word of Faith that Paul preach, here the power of Life is felt & known, not letter learning. 2Cor 3:6
Sanctification "making holy" is describe in Titus 3:5 unto the new creature, being born again by this Incorruptible Seed.
The Light, conforms & transforms unto Himself, in which there is no darkness at all. Eph5:8 "were" past tense.
The resurrection life is reveal here & now, in ever increasing measures in sanctification work, & is consummated by being baptized in the Holy Spirit, revealed also as being baptize unto His death Rom 6:3-6 the life of the born-again/new creature is the walking in the newness of the resurrection Life of Christ were one is seal & gather to the Gardener, where self is seen no more, its not I but Christ.
There's two stages we may attain to in our growth in Grace/Life
Reaching the state of Adam innocents before he fell, where if not diligent/watchful we maybe ensnared again , Yet if one continues as mention in the exercising of the Grace of God, one will be baptizes by the Holy Spirit, "the threshing floor, (our hearts) thoroughly purge". We're born again, dead unto sin, alive & in union with Christ & the Father John 17:21-23 here & now!
Grace & Peace to you
I don't advocate the studing of the letter, for these reasons,
it's takes away from Holy Spirit as our Teacher
in the Apostasy in became rely on as God definitive rule to know Him
it has become a form of knowledge without the power,
in man's ungenerated nature, he going to naturally reject the suffering of picking up the Cross & denying self.
Yet, he deceives himself by thinking he can still follow Christ. Pacifying himself with wearing the cross around his neck, along with his beloved sins in his heart.
With that being said, an a added encouragement it can be a help while we"re in our weaker state, if Holy Spirit is our Teacher & Guide who will lead us into all Truth, again emphasising The Living Word of God heard in our heart, Grace appearance. John 1:9
In Titus 3:5 "washing of regeneration & renewing in the Holy Spirit" define as
(spiritual) rebirth (the state or the act), i.e. (figuratively) spiritual renovation; specially, Messianic restoration --"moral renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God, a radical change of mind for the better" effected in baptism, Commonly, however, the word denotes the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as the renewal or restoration of life after death.
The death speaking of here is Rom 6:3-6 the consummation of Matt 3:12 being raise in the newness of His Life, "ye must be born again"
Therefore 2Cor 7:1
Let's put Matthew 5:48 in its context.
Matthew 5:43-48.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR, AND HATE THINE ENEMY.
But I say unto you, LOVE your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
( THERE'S THE CONTEXT! )
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Christ is giving an distinction between the days of old under the law and the coming Kingdom.
However here's much said about perfect love in 1 John 4:6-21
John Speaks much on this.
Here's a few verses from 1 John.
4:8 "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
4:10 "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
1 John 4:21 is my favorite.
"And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also".
Did you notice it doesn't say "he who loveth God "SHOULD" love his brother also?
Loving your brother is a condition that the Holyspirit causes when one truly loves God.
Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
God bless
I don't see where what I describe takes it out of context of your statement, but the fulfillment of it.
the same word is used in James 1:4
Friend
shall I present more before you, & would you hear it then?
Grace & Peace to you
I meant Frankie.
It's getting late.
How about another day.
God bless
You do greatly error in the Truth
This is profession without possession, God's see us as we are.
go to your letter learning books & see what perfect is define as
& here's one for you Matt 5:48
complete, perfect, mature
From telos; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with ho) completeness -- of full age, man, perfect.
There's not a different standard of holiness stated here, for God & mankind, it's as our heavenly Father is perfect!
Our Standard has been lifted up, lets pick up our cross & follow our victorious Captian Christ Jesus
I will give witness my friends,
that the journey is very long, difficult & laiden with many snares of the enemy within & without; the pathway is very straight indeed. Psalms 23:4 His promise to me years ago Isa 42:16 & he has been faithfully faithful to Himself & me
I see the Light at the end of the tunnel, I'm even at the door! All I need do is to continue to love Him fervently & my neigbor as myself, & do unto to other what I would have done unto me.
Through all the very difficult hardships, I can in simplicity of heart say I would not change one thing, for in the very firey trials of my faith, I came to know Him, which make it more precious than silver or gold. I can see as press on to the higher calling of perfection, these experiences with Him will continue to increase though they will be a change of reasons 2Cor 6:6-10 & become more precious that life itself.
Friends, pick up the Cross-the Grace of God that appears in your heart, it is indeed He, the Emmanuel of God who is within you
speaking ever so softly in motions of love, kindness, rebukes & corrections all things that pertain to life & godliness.
Friends, love Truth
GBU.
I've enjoyed reading your posts even though our views don't always agree they are always grounded in sound biblical doctrine. I can tell you are a true child of the light. I can't say that about everyone here.
God bless you.
Psalms 107:20 He SENT his WORD, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
Psalms 107:15 Oh that man wold praise the LORD for his GOODNESS, and his WONDERFUL WORKS to the children of men.
God BLESS YOU!
God bless.
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