Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON.PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND

    You all know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea,and walk through a desert,walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of peregrination/pilgrimage.What about GOD's people now, even in this current time?

    Now GOD's people,members of Christ's body,will have to go through (I mean win a war)against the Red Dragon,that's exactly it,a Red Dragon yes, this is no coincidence,it was predicted millennia ago. He's a false messiah who will soon manifest,just ahead,with great signs of lying,he will manifest in Israel as a lamb with two horns,he's a Jew,of course,and he will speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.3-17 and Revelation 13:11-18.

    Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceedingly joy - day 1335.Remembering and understanding that the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt was not without first having taken place a battle against Pharaoh(by the way,there and now is the same,it's Satan himself),and when the march began for the departure of GOD's people from Egypt,then the enemy army persecuted the Hebrews,the same will happen now,initially the persecution will be by the man Beast of the sea,it is he who will first persecute the Christian believers- Revelation 13:5-for 42 months,that is the first half of the last week,the week 70th Dan.9:27.This POINT is only and only the half of the way-3,5 years or 42 months,the GOD's people will need to march more 3,5 years,so the march will last 7 years,it will not be easy this journey of course.

    Again: Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous,and day of exceendigly joy-day 1335.Amen

    JESUS in His prayer to the Father, said: Jn 17:15-I pray not that thou take them out of the world,but that thou keep them from the evil.

    Blessed are the meek:for they shall inherit the earth.Mat.5:5

    Get ready, yeah, get ready.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Actually, there is no 7 year tribulation period. I mean, it doesn't really matter how long it is, but nowhere does it specify 7 years. Common, "misunderstanding".. one day equals a year in the prophetic, as we see in the 70 weeks concerning the messiah.. Jesus of course. Not meaning this argumentative in any way either.
  • Asmund_The Laggard - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The 7-year time period mentioned throughout scripture, but described in detail in the books of Daniel and Revelation, is also known as

    The great tribulation ( Matthew 24:21)

    The Day of the Lord ( Isaiah 2:12; 13:6-9; Joel 1:15; 2:1-31; 3:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2)

    Trouble or tribulation ( Deuteronomy 4:30)

    The time of Jacob's troubles ( Jeremiah 30:7)

    Toward the end of Daniel's life, he has a vision described in Daniel 12.

    "At that time Michael shall stand up, the great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, and those who turn many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever."- Daniel 12:1-3

    From this passage, we know that

    Unprecedented, troubling times are on the way.

    There will be some who will awake to "everlasting life."

    There will be some who will awake to "shame and everlasting contempt."

    Those who are wise will shine.

    A further study of this passage and the 7-year tribulation reveals more about the troubling times and who will awake to everlasting life and who will awake to everlasting contempt.

    Everlasting life is given by those who trust in Jesus for their salvation.

    Everlasting contempt is given to those who do not trust Jesus.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I understand these prophetic verses ok. As a let's just say, a lifelong "student" of the prophetic, Thanks to our Lord Jesus.. there is no, ok.. no 7 YEAR trib. I am fully aware of the time of trouble, as well as the many verses that apply to this. I am fully aware of the "tribulation".. the thing I am trying to get across is simply this. The 7 year trib is NOT in the bible. The antichrist making a treaty with Israel is NOT in the bible. Ok, these are false teachings, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, Lahaye... blah blah, should I go on?.. This is a narrative that is being perpetuated by people who are only repeating what they have HEARD. Because, my friend it is not in the bible. You didn't learn the 7 year trib from the bible did you?.. Of course not, none of you did, it's a deception.. do you understand yet?.. I will be more than happy to correspond on here with you or anyone else if you like, in a civil, friendly ,albeit "challenging" manner. These people get on here and throw out a long winded dissertation about things they don't even know. Hey, one of my favorite lines of scripture..Rev.19:10....worship God, for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. May our Lord be praised, love and peace to the bretheren.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Rainwalker

    Your thinking is from a human perspective,not from GOD's perspective. JESUS said: Luke 21:24-And they(the Jews-Israel)shall fall by the edge of the sword,and shall be led away captive into all nations(this part of the verse literally fulfilled against Israel, from 70 to 1948, 1878 years of severe curses and punishments,and plagues- Deuteronomy 28:15-63):and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(this part of prophecy will literally fulfill in days to come,also according to the Revelation 11:2)until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    Matthew 24:15 -When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,spoken of by Daniel the prophet( Daniel 12:6-12),stand in the holy place,(whoso readeth,let him understand)

    Daniel 12:6-12

    6And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

    7And I heard the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times,and an half;and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,all these things shall be finished.

    8And I heard,but I understood not:then said I,O my Lord,what shall be the end of these things?

    9And he said,Go thy way,Daniel:for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the END.

    10Many shall be PURIFIED,and made WHITE,and TRIED;but the wicked shall do wickedly:and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Jesus' sacrifice has already lasted 738,300 days,and now will be taken away),and the abomination that maketh desolate set up(in the midst of the last week of years),there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(END of this current world of Devil)

    12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oseas, that's kinda my point, where is this 7 year trib?
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Rainwalker"

    You said: "Oseas, that's kinda my point, where is this 7 year trib?"

    Well, it is in the Word of GOD, of course, have you never read or did not understand? No surprise, for JESUS said: (whoso readeth, let him understand:)Matthew.24:15
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oseas, of course I have read the Word of God, which is how I know there is NO 7 year tribulation period. Care to "enlighten" me brother, where might I find that in the Word of God, thanks.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Rainwalker"

    "You asked: "where might I find that in the Word of God". Well, in the post above where I quoted tghe prophecies of Daniel and JESUS. But JESUS said: (whoso readeth, let him understand:)Matthew.24:15
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    no sir it is not! there is NO reference to a 7 year trib in those prophecies, furthermore, there is no "treaty" between the antichrist and Israel which is broken in 31/2 years. You are mistaken, I ask you once again, back up your statement, where is the 7 year trib in the bible?
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Rainwater:

    You are correct, there is no 7 year great tribulation; the word does tell us, the great tribulation lasted from the time Christ entered the garden till he DIED on the cross.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jordyn

    But in your reply to Rainwater you forget to confim by the Word of GOD what you said in your post unto him.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oseas:

    Romans 5:9 Much more then, being NOW JUSTIFIED by his blood, we shall be saved FROM WRATH through HIM.

    Psalms 88:16 Thy (the Father's) WRATH has gone over ME (Christ); thy (the Father's terrors have cut ME (Christ) off.

    Job 19:11 He (the Father) hath kindled HIS WRATH against ME (Christ), he (the Father) counteth ME (Christ) as one of his enemies.

    Isaiah 53:10 It pleased the LORD to bruise HIM, he hath put him to grief: when thou shall make HIS soul an OFFERING for SIN....

    The wrath of GOD that all creation deserved was POURED OUT, by his Father, on Christ.

    Christ is telling his disciples what is going to occur in a few hours:

    Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation (all the wrath of GOD poured out on Christ)), such as was not from the beginning of the world To THIS TIME, nor shall ever be (again).

    Matthew 24:21 And except those DAYS (of the great tribulation, the wrath of God on his SON) BE SHORTENED (Pilate SAID, is he so SOON be dead), there shall no flesh BE SAVED (all creation was saved by the great tribulation of Christ).

    If you want more scriptures I will give them to you.

    God Bless YOU!

    .
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jordyn

    Your thinking is from human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23-23.

    In Romans 5:9 Paul was speaking of the salvation of the wrath, NOT of the salvation of the tribulation. It seems you don't know to distinghish between WRATH and TRIBULATION. When Paul, author of Romans, returned to Lystra, and Iconium and Antioch- Acts 14:22-, he said to the believers to exhort the disciples to continue in the faith, because we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of GOD(as is written in Revelation 11:15-18 and 1 Cor.15:24-26).

    Furthermore, you repetidly say in your post the Father WRATHED against His Son, the Christ, the Messiah, what you are preaching will NEVER happended, GOD the Father NEVER wrathed against His Son, so what you wrote is devilish, in fact is satanic. As was revealed to Isaiah "Surely he -JESUS, the Messiah- hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows, He was WOUNDED for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the CHASTISEMENT WAS UPON HIM (NOT THE WRATH OF THE FATHER AS YOU IN MALIGN SENSE WROTE) and with His stripes we are healed. Yeah, GOD NEVER wrathed against His own Son. By the way, your evil post is a confirmation of what is written the Word of GOD: "he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth"- John 3:31:

    Your interpretation of Scriptures is not different of the man of sin, son of perdition- Genesis 3:1, but equal. GOD forbid us.

    Well, in fact "no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27. It's it.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oseas:

    You are correct, at one time I was the son of perdition.

    1 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel, even Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    Have you come to this truth.

    God Bless YOU!



This comment thread is locked. Please enter a new comment below to start a new comment thread.

Note: Comment threads older than 2 months are automatically locked.
 

Do you have a Bible comment or question?


Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!