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  • Thedorse on 2 Corinthians 9 - 1 year ago
    I give a Tenth. It is what God laid on My Heart from the beginning. But Look at Scripture and Elisha who poured out into the vessels continuously of oil. Her Husband a Man of God died Penniless, broke. Peter said , Silver and Gold have I None but Such as I have I give unto Thee Rise and Walk in the Name of Jesus of Nazerath. Jesus was a proponent for the poor. So much that He began His Ministry by saying, He has Anointed Me to Preach the Gospel to the Poor.

    A visitor to a large Church wandered into a back room accidentally. In this room were Money Counters and a Enormous amount of money laid across the tables. He was embarrassed and apologized and the Counters were shocked that someone would walk in. One of the Counters trying to get rid of the awkwardness said , Well The Church can't say Silver and Gold have I None anymore. As He closed the door, God spoke to Him and He stuck His head back around and said, No and neither can They say Rise and Walk in The Name of Jesus. The Tenth is upheld by a Religious Organization that mirrors that of Christ's day. Burdens too Grievous to be bourne for so Many. I am a Minister,a Pastor. I understand the Financial needs of the Church. But this Doctrine of not paying a Tenth is Jeopardizing Your Soul or if you only pay a fifth, etc,just keep it. You are going to be Cursed and Die and go to Hell is Blasphemous. It's Rejecting the Works and Salvation of God. Paul said to Give as You have Prospered . Jesus said whatever You have freely received then freely give. Now,,, if You are willing to Walk by Faith and not by SIGHT and trust God. You will begin to give beyond Your means. Not because of a Denomination or Man or Pressure. But God is going to deal with You and test You and see if You are Trustworthy. The reason a lot of People don't have much or struggle financially continually even in the Church is because They are not Givers. I gave 20 dollars in 1996 when I had literally 23 dollars. God put the 20 in My hand that Night .
  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Blessings Thedorse,

    In regards to the last two sentences of your comments: I'm quite certain that out of the millions of churchgoers, past, present, and future, there has, is, and will be some who give 10% minimum and still struggle; and also many who give less or nothing that have not, do not, or will not struggle financially.

    Also, is not God omniscient? Of course He is. Why then would he test someone to find out (as if He didn't know), their trustworthiness, when He is eternally all knowing? Is it possible there are things God does not yet understand or know and must wait until later to find out, even though He knows the numbers of hairs on your head?

    Lastly, who is this entity who curses, kills and sends to hell? Sounds like to me the source of these qualities of darkness and evil would not be capable of producing perfect Love which could never curse, murder, or deliberately send to hell what is a part of Him. If it were possible that God could be separated from His creation, God would be incomplete without us. Is there anything that can make your Heavenly Father fatherless? Is there another omniscient and omnipotent source even more omniscient and omnipotent than God? No, of course not; there can be ONLY One.

    If you say, yes, it is sin, then you may want to consider that sin would only prove what God created holy could not prevail against it, nor remain itself before the power of sin. Sin is perceived as mightier than God, before which God Himself must bow and offer His Creation to Its conqueror, "Satan". Many mistakenly call this humility. It is not; it's madness. NOTHING can separate us from the Love of God; not even our false beliefs that God curses, condemns, and kills.

    If God is Love and fear and hate, then your so called "devil" has no purpose or function at all. What's left? NOTHING. Why even ever mention his name?

    God Is

    Peace



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